[Year 12 IT Apps] Re: Teaching ITA to Yr 11s

Tue Dec 11 00:52:41 EST 2007

Sorry folks, just reluctant to spell out the details of specific issues but
I can word this in general terms.

Many months ago I had a specific inquiry from a year 11 student who
completed ITA Unit 3 and 4 and struggled with others. After completing their
year 11 subjects, they wanted to know if they could go back and tackle Unit
1 and 2 during year 12. As it was, there was little point as they are on the
path to have sufficient VCE credits from a LOTE subject they were also
studying (thank goodness for foreign language topics) but it did prick my
curiosity.

Regards Roland

On 01/12/2007, Robert Hind <robert at yinnar.com> wrote:
>
>  Not sure where you are in that box, cube, sphere, bucket, peck, bushel, .
> . .!
>
> I don't know the VCAA answer - but what would be the bloody point in doing
> units 1 and 2 of a subject after completing units 3 and 4?
>
> Robert Hind (Semi-retired)
> Ex Traralgon and Ashwood
>
> ----- Original Message -----
>  *From:* Roland Gesthuizen <rgesthuizen at gmail.com>
> *To:* Year 12 IT Applications Teachers' Mailing List<itapps at edulists.com.au>
> *Sent:* Saturday, December 01, 2007 8:40 PM
> *Subject:* Re: [Year 12 IT Apps] Re: Teaching ITA to Yr 11s
>
> Beyond boredom, class numbers, sequence and timetable blocking .. would
> anything stop a year 11 student who did ITA unit 3 and 4 from doing IT Unit
> 1 and 2 in year 12?
>
> Just thinking outside the box (cube, sphere or bucket) ..
>
> Regards Roland
>
> On 30/11/2007, Robert Hind <robert at yinnar.com> wrote:
> >
> >  This obviously changes over time as the universities, through VTAC,
> > change their requirements and as the VCE changes. The VICTER 2008 manual,
> > the one current for students in year 12 this year states that (pages 7 and
> > 8):
> >
> > "no more that two IT studies. . . can be included in the Primary Four. .
> > . . IT studies include: VCE Information Systems; VCE Information
> > Processing and Management; and VCE VET Information Technology." So it would
> > seem that students doing both this year have been able to count both towards
> > their ENTER and this seems to continue into the future - at least up to
> > 2010.
> >
> > Of course this VICTER was written before ITA and SOD started as the
> > VICTER is written for year 10 students planning their courses, ie for
> > this year's year 12s the VICTER 2008 was written in 2005.
> >
> > Robert Hind (Semi-retired)
> > Ex Traralgon and Ashwood
> >
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> >  *From:* DRADR at whc.vic.edu.au
> > *To:* itapps at edulists.com.au
> > *Sent:* Friday, November 30, 2007 2:59 PM
> > *Subject:* RE: [Year 12 IT Apps] Re: Teaching ITA to Yr 11s
> >
> > Debra
> > I don't believe this is correct. The Victer 2010 publication (available
> > from the Career's teacher) page 8 indicates that you can use either IPM or
> > ITA and Info Systems or Software Development in your ENTER calculations.
> >
> > Ray Drady
> > Western Heights College
> >
> >  -----Original Message-----
> > *From:* itapps-bounces at edulists.com.au [mailto:
> > itapps-bounces at edulists.com.au] *On Behalf Of *McDonald, Debra A1
> > *Sent:* Friday, 30 November 2007 1:59
> > *To:* Year 12 IT Applications Teachers' Mailing List
> > *Subject:* RE: [Year 12 IT Apps] Re: Teaching ITA to Yr 11s
> >
> >  here is the problem with that.... the students can only use the score
> > from either ITA or SOD to assist them in getting into the university as I
> > had a student who tried both and it was rejected...
> >
> > hope yours had better luck.
> >
> > cheers
> > Debra McDonald
> >    Network Manager
> > Lyndhurst Secondary College
> > Cranbourne
> > (03) 5996 0144
> >
> > ------------------------------
> > *From:* itapps-bounces at edulists.com.au on behalf of Rattan, Kushum L
> > *Sent:* Fri 30/11/07 1:29 PM
> > *To:* Year 12 IT Applications Teachers' Mailing List
> > *Subject:* RE: [Year 12 IT Apps] Re: Teaching ITA to Yr 11s
> >
> >  I offered IPM(ITA) in one year and Info Systems(SOD) in the second to
> > overcome this problem.
> > Kushum Rattan
> > IT Co-ordinator
> > Gisborne Secondary College
> > Phone: (03) 5428 3691
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: itapps-bounces at edulists.com.au
> > [ mailto:itapps-bounces at edulists.com.au <itapps-bounces at edulists.com.au>]
> > On Behalf Of Meadows, Roslyn M
> > Sent: Friday, 30 November 2007 12:00 PM
> > To: Year 12 IT Applications Teachers' Mailing List
> > Subject: RE: [Year 12 IT Apps] Re: Teaching ITA to Yr 11s
> >
> > Get them doing a first year uni IT subject???
> >
> >
> >
> > Roslyn Meadows
> > ICT Coordinator
> > Head of Assessment and Reporting
> > Bentleigh Secondary College | 9579 1044 | 0412 614 062
> >
> > Please consider the environment before printing this email
> >
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: itapps-bounces at edulists.com.au
> > [ mailto:itapps-bounces at edulists.com.au <itapps-bounces at edulists.com.au>]
> > On Behalf Of Russell Edwards
> > Sent: Friday, 30 November 2007 11:37 AM
> > To: Year 12 IT Applications Teachers' Mailing List
> > Subject: Re: [Year 12 IT Apps] Re: Teaching ITA to Yr 11s
> >
> >
> > On 30/11/2007, at 10:53 AM, Meadows, Roslyn M wrote:
> > > I think what Kent and Roland mean is that you just enrol your Year
> > > 11's
> > > into the 3/4 unit, so they do ITApps SAC's and the exam, and at the
> > > end
> > > of the year they have one year 12 subject up their sleeve.
> >
> > Oops, my mistake! That sounds much more sensible, although what do you
> > do with the kids who want to do 2 years of IT?
> >
> > Russell Edwards
> > Whittlesea Secondary College
> >
> >
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Roland Gesthuizen - ICT Coordinator - Westall Secondary College
http://www.westallsc.vic.edu.au

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