[Year 12 IT Apps] FW: Ultranet
Cameron Bell
bell.cameron.p at edumail.vic.gov.au
Mon Aug 20 17:13:33 EST 2007
Standards is an interesting component. I wonder what is meant by that.
Real Open standards, or de facto proprietary ones based on the winning
tender.
I'd love to see a whole state education system's resources and knowledge
held ransom to a consortium of IT companies- well even more so than we
already are anyway.
Cheers
Cameron
Laurie Savage wrote:
> I suppose there's nothing to stop a consortium of Moodlers submitiing
> a tender!
>
> LS
>
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> *From:* itapps-bounces at edulists.com.au
> [mailto:itapps-bounces at edulists.com.au] *On Behalf Of *Roland Gesthuizen
> *Sent:* Monday, 20 August 2007 1:38 PM
> *To:* Year 12 IT Applications Teachers' Mailing List
> *Subject:* Re: [Year 12 IT Apps] FW: Ultranet
>
> Hmm, they didn't answer the $M60 question asked.
>
> Oddly enough, they invited Laurie to download the tender. Cute :-)
>
> It would be an interesting to post a tender response.
>
> A survey is nice, but I wonder at the depth and level of consultation
> with the subject associations and professional groups already doing
> cool activities with tools such as Moodle. This is about teaching and
> learning, not just worksheets, software and bandwidth. For now, we we
> can only speculate at the deeper educational pedagogy and research
> that underpins this centralist model for networked service delivery.
> Anybody who can predict the world beyond 2017 is a fool. I'm certainly
> not holding my breath.
>
> It is really great to see ALL the different learning tools we are all
> using and engaged by the exciting things that are happening. Only last
> week, a new teacher was posted here a swag of ideas from MS Sharepoint
> users. Thats cool! There is a very real strength in our current
> diversity of tools, teaching styles and innovative solutions, many in
> spite of poor funding or administrative hurdles. The VITTA annual
> conference is a celebration of these success stories by a community of
> practicing educators.
>
> Should we be concerned about an all embracing, centralist model for
> networked service delivery for Victorian state schools? I suppose we
> could be proactive and engage with the tender process .. or keep on
> doing the fun stuff that engages and teaches our students :-)
>
> Regards Roland
>
> On 20/08/07, *Laurie Savage* <sav at pvgc.vic.edu.au
> <mailto:sav at pvgc.vic.edu.au>> wrote:
>
> I emailed the Ultranet people, here is their reply.
>
> Laurie
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Quach, Tam T [mailto:quach.tam.t at edumail.vic.gov.au
> <mailto:quach.tam.t at edumail.vic.gov.au>] On Behalf Of
> Ultranet
> Sent: Monday, 20 August 2007 9:28 AM
> To: sav at pvgc.vic.edu.au <mailto:sav at pvgc.vic.edu.au>
> Subject: RE: Ultranet
>
> Hi Laurie
>
> Thank you for your enquiry of 17 August 2007 regarding the Ultranet.
>
> The Department of Education is aware that some schools are using
> learning
> management systems such as Moodle. Please refer to section 8.1.20
> of the
> Request for Tender specifications below:
>
> 8.1.20 Learning Management Systems
> A few Victorian government schools have made investments in third
> party
> learning management solutions. Solutions include (but are not
> limited to)
> Edumate, My Classes, Scholaris, Studywiz, Moodle, Blackboard and
> other
> custom developed intranet solutions. The solutions are
> implemented within
> schools' curriculum network environment. DoE is in the process of
> conducting
> an extensive survey of existing applications in use at schools to
> assist in
> formulating the data conversion and change management strategies.
>
> Learning management systems, however, are only one component of the
> Ultranet. The other components include:
>
> . Strategy
> . Learning and Teaching Management
> . Administration
> . Collaboration
> . Student Information
> . Staff Information
> . School Information
> . Reporting
> . Productivity Tools
> . Architecture
> . Security
> . Standards
> . Change Management
> . Development and Implementation
> . Service Hosting, Operational Support and Maintenance
>
> The Ultranet Request for Tender was released publicly on 1 August
> 2007. You
> can the Ultranet RFT from the Victorian Government Tenders web
> site at
> www.tenders.vic.gov.au <http://www.tenders.vic.gov.au>. Search
> for 'Ultranet'. You will need to register on
> the site in order to download the document.
>
> I hope this answers your question.
>
> Regards
> Tam Quach
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Laurie Savage [mailto:sav at pvgc.vic.edu.au
> <mailto:sav at pvgc.vic.edu.au>]
> Sent: Friday, 17 August 2007 3:35 PM
> To: Ultranet
> Subject: Ultranet
>
> We are already using a colloborative, intuitive e-learning system
> that is
> under constant development and improvement. We use it for VELS and VCE
> cources. It is free, open source and can be tailored to local
> needs. It is
> written in PHP and uses a free backend database. It is called
> Moodle. Does
> the state need to spend $M60 to implement an untried alternative?
>
> Laurie Savage
> ICT/Comm. Tech. Teacher,
> Pascoe Vale Girls College
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