[Year 12 IT Apps] Saving zip and exe files to network drive

Cameron Bell bell.cameron.p at edumail.vic.gov.au
Tue Aug 7 13:23:49 EST 2007


Unfortunately, for a lot of change, it has to come from the top. :(


Meadows, Roslyn M wrote:
>
> Hi Lance,
>
> Decisions relating to IT systems in the school are made by principal 
> and IT Tech. Myself or the other IT teacher usually find out about 
> something happening (eg decision to purchase 4 year old computers for 
> $200 each rather than lease new ones) after the decisions are made and 
> we find out about these decisions by ‘osmosis’.
>
> Decisions are made firstly on the grounds of budget, secondly for ease 
> of running the network
>
> There is no head of curriculum, no head of any KLA and no head of IT 
> (except the tech)
>
> The school is divided into year level TEAMS
>
> There are 3 coordinators at each year level and 2 Heads for Junior 
> school and 2 heads for Senior school. Each teacher is a member of a 
> year level team and must reside in the office for that team (so no 
> Science/Maths/English work areas exist for staff)
>
> I have been requesting, asking, pleading, begging, ranting, raving, 
> yelling now since 2005 – sick of getting lame excuses. I left the 
> school for 2006 and went to Lauriston for a year because I was so 
> disillusioned.
>
> When I came back this year (refreshed and revitalised) I thought I 
> could change things, but after 6 months of banging my head against a 
> brick wall in the principal’s office I am wasted.
>
> I want to do so much for and with the kids, but it is so hard, when 
> the kids are seen as the ‘enemy’ by the techs. Moodle will not work 
> from home, half the kids cannot get into moodle at all, the other half 
> cannot get into any courses (even with the key). I use DayMap for 
> sharing files with classes.
>
> YES I HAVE LOST THE PLOT – also running out of steam and energy and 
> thinking of throwing in the towel even though I still have 2 years to 
> go until I am 55
>
> 	
>
> *Roslyn Meadows | Bentleigh Secondary College | 9579 1044 | 0412 614 062*
>
> 	
>
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> *From:* itapps-bounces at edulists.com.au 
> [mailto:itapps-bounces at edulists.com.au] *On Behalf Of *Lance Gibbens
> *Sent:* Tuesday, 7 August 2007 7:58 AM
> *To:* Year 12 IT Applications Teachers' Mailing List
> *Subject:* RE: [Year 12 IT Apps] Saving zip and exe files to network drive
>
> Dear Roslyn,
>
> I rarely make comment here, but, for goodness sake… what’s the goal of 
> your school? Who’s making these decisions and on what grounds?
>
> Our core business is the education of kids… nothing else, and that 
> includes everyone on the payroll, techs included. These decisions are 
> interfering with the curriculum goals of your school. You need to do 
> something about it. I would first go to your Head of Curriculum, and 
> then up to the Principal, and don’t take ‘no’ for an answer.
>
> The IT support and IT decisions MUST support the curriculum… simple. 
> In any other scenario, you have lost the plot.
>
> Lance
>
> Lance G. Gibbens
>
> Head of Teaching and Learning
>
> Flinders Christian Community College
>
> P.O. Box 45
>
> TYABB.
>
> Ph. 59732013
>
> Mob. 0419548036
>
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> *From:* itapps-bounces at edulists.com.au 
> [mailto:itapps-bounces at edulists.com.au] *On Behalf Of *Maggie Iaquinto
> *Sent:* Monday, 6 August 2007 3:33 PM
> *To:* Year 12 IT Applications Teachers' Mailing List
> *Subject:* RE: [Year 12 IT Apps] Saving zip and exe files to network drive
>
> That is so harsh!
>
> Maggie
>
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>
> *From:* itapps-bounces at edulists.com.au 
> [mailto:itapps-bounces at edulists.com.au] *On Behalf Of *Meadows, Roslyn M
> *Sent:* Monday, 6 August 2007 3:19 PM
> *To:* Year 12 IT Applications Teachers' Mailing List
> *Subject:* [Year 12 IT Apps] Saving zip and exe files to network drive
>
> Hi – our students cannot save zip, scr, vbs or exe files to their 
> H:drives (their storage space on the network)
>
> Unfortunately this means
>
> · my students doing gamemaker cannot save the exe file created so the 
> game can be played,
>
> · teaching visual basic is impossible,
>
> · zip files cannot be created (for example I want them to create a zip 
> file of the folder that contains their website so that they can submit 
> the zip file to me)
>
> Any of these files could be brought to school and accessed via a USB 
> bar – yet these files cannot be copied onto or created in their H:drive.
>
> Unfortunately using USB’s for student file storage is a problem 
> because they leave them home, lose them, they cease to work etc so 
> students lose work if it is not backed up to their H:drive
>
> Do other schools put these restrictions on students? I am told it is 
> to “protect the server”. I can’t see the difference between having 
> these files on a USB or in the H:drive. Am I going loopy here???
>
> Thanks
>
> Ros
>
> 	
>
> *Roslyn Meadows | Bentleigh Secondary College | 9579 1044 | 0412 614 062*
>
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