[Year 12 IT Apps] Task 3 I'm still confused

Thu Aug 2 12:21:22 EST 2007

Zach

Amen.

I want to paste an email sent some time ago. 16/7/07

++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

Can anyone clarify please?

Do the students mind map the problem-solving methodology as in the text
book or the PSM and all the bits that they do - so more specific to
their own processes?

The assessment guide mentions all the phases? i'm not really sure.

Thank-you, Litsa
+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

to which Paula replied 16/7/07

++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
The study design requires the students to record their decisions and
actions when creating a solution to the problem. I don't think they
need
to tediously record every decision made for the stages of the
problem-solving methodology, but rather to identify some key decisions
that had to be made (e.g. what form of user documentation) and what
actions they took (how did they carry out the decision) when solving
the
problem. The evaluation of their problem solving strategies could be
also recorded in this visual representation (for example, a
bubble/callout could house a comment, such as 'my decision to create
'x'
allows the user to simultaneously view documentation advice and their
own solution ...'

Students could, for example, use the following approach (of course,
they
would make it look visually appealing!):

 Decision                        Options
Action
            Impact of decision/action

(list the decision)           (record available options)
(indicate action taken - could colour code option selected)
(evaluation component)

Regards

Paula

++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

Again... Why would you use a planning tool to snail trail a decision
path.

Paula, can you please give further clarification to the "for
example..." that you gave at the end of your response. My email
application can make no sense of it. as it is presented.

Regards

Brendyn

Brendyn Hancock
IT Manager
bhancock at nagle.sale.catholic.edu.au
---------------------------------------------
Nagle College
5152 6122
Bairnsdale VIC 3875

>>> "Alexakos, Zach Z" <alexakos.zach.z at edumail.vic.gov.au> 2/08/2007
11:48 am >>>
I can't wait to move on to the next outcome.  

Zach Alexakos

-----Original Message-----
From: itapps-bounces at edulists.com.au 
[mailto:itapps-bounces at edulists.com.au] On Behalf Of
margaret.lawson at konstantkaos.net 
Sent: Thursday, 2 August 2007 11:35 AM
To: Year 12 IT Applications Teachers' Mailing List
Subject: Re: [Year 12 IT Apps] Task 3 I'm still confused

Russell

I guess I see teaching thinking skills as a little like teaching
flowcharting. Provide kids with a structure/rules that they can use,
rather than a wishy washy structure that could mean anything.

At the end of the day, the reality is that VCAA have not provided
enough
resources (either through study design or assessment guide) or PD on
this
SAC (sorry Paula) and we are all going about it in the best way that
we
know how, from what ever knowledge base we have. Just in time PD
through
mailing lists is really not acceptable! I wonder if any other subjects
use
thinking tools in this way?

We are introducing our kids to thinking tools that I have learnt about
through PD events that I have attended. Our "workbook" is a way of
providing the kids with a scaffold that they can use throughout the
SAC
to
structure their thinking.

When they come to Task 3, they can use their notes to construct their
visual thinking diagram knowing that they have developed their
thinking
throughout the SAC. Given the calibre of kids in this class, this type
of
scaffolding *is* needed to support their learning.

Perhaps I am a bit over enthusiastic ..  I am what I am!!

:)

Margaret

On Thu, August 2, 2007 11:08 am, Russell Edwards wrote:
>

> On 02/08/2007, at 10:16 AM, margaret.lawson at konstantkaos.net wrote:
>
>
>> How does this sound?
>>
>
> To me, it sounds over-enthusiastic, but then I hate all this
> visualising thinking rubbish anyway! This is year 12, not year 2.
>
> My interpretation is similar to Brendan's. It says to *record* the
> steps taken.  Record implies a chronological ordering, I would
think.
This
> means no mind maps, fishnet stockings or whatever. This could mean:
>
> - a simple linear progression, with arrows between each point,
> showing the actual order of decisions - a precedence diagram, i.e. a
> network with arrows showing which decisions *necessarily* preceded
others.
> I.e., the type of "network
> diagram" MS Project produces when you ask for one.
>
>
>
> Russell
>
>
>
> Important - This email and any attachments may be confidential. If
> received in error, please contact us and delete all copies. Before
> opening or using attachments check them for viruses and defects.
> Regardless of any loss, damage or consequence, whether caused by the
> negligence of the sender or not, resulting directly or indirectly
from
> the use of any attached files our liability is limited to
resupplying
any
> affected attachments. Any representations or opinions expressed are
those
> of the individual sender, and not necessarily those of the
Department
of
> Education.
> _______________________________________________
> http://www.edulists.com.au - FAQ, resources, subscribe, unsubscribe
> IT Applications Mailing List kindly supported by
> http://www.vcaa.vic.edu.auvce/studies/infotech/itapplications3-4.html

-
> Victorian Curriculum and Assessment Authority and
> http://www.vitta.org.au  - VITTA Victorian Information Technology
Teachers
> Association Inc
>
>

_______________________________________________
http://www.edulists.com.au - FAQ, resources, subscribe, unsubscribe
IT Applications Mailing List kindly supported by
http://www.vcaa.vic.edu.auvce/studies/infotech/itapplications3-4.html
-
Victorian Curriculum and Assessment Authority and
http://www.vitta.org.au  - VITTA Victorian Information Technology
Teachers Association Inc

Important - This email and any attachments may be confidential. If
received in error, please contact us and delete all copies. Before
opening or using attachments check them for viruses and defects.
Regardless of any loss, damage or consequence, whether caused by the
negligence of the sender or not, resulting directly or indirectly from
the use of any attached files our liability is limited to resupplying
any affected attachments. Any representations or opinions expressed are
those of the individual sender, and not necessarily those of the
Department of Education.

_______________________________________________
http://www.edulists.com.au - FAQ, resources, subscribe, unsubscribe
IT Applications Mailing List kindly supported by
http://www.vcaa.vic.edu.auvce/studies/infotech/itapplications3-4.html -
Victorian Curriculum and Assessment Authority and
http://www.vitta.org.au  - VITTA Victorian Information Technology
Teachers Association Inc

`*;~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Important - This email and any attachments may be confidential. If
received in error, please contact us and delete all copies. Before
opening or using attachments check them for viruses and defects.
Regardless of any loss, damage or consequence, whether caused by the
negligence of the sender or not, resulting directly or indirectly from
the use of any attached files our liability is limited to resupplying
any affected attachments. Any representations or opinions expressed are
those of the individual sender, and not necessarily those of Nagle
College, Bairnsdale. 