[Year 12 IT Apps] Outcome 2 task - query???

Thu Apr 5 14:35:59 EST 2007

Thanks for the idea Mark, I noticed Margaret L's comment about what she did with her group. I reckon that with a combo of your idea and hers, I should be able to nail it now. What I had in my own head was along similar lines to what you two have done calling on my pre-teaching days experiences in the "real world" workforce. Mind you, the methods have changed, but the concepts essentially, are still the same.
Again, thanks for the feedback Mr. K.  Will look at your website and see if that inspires some ideas...
Any others with ideas are still appreciated as its likely to still be a curiosity for many.(OC2, that is.).
Good luck to all.

Kent Beveridge,
I.T. to years 8-12
St. Brigids Catholic Sec. College
Horsham

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From: itapps-bounces at edulists.com.au on behalf of Mark Kelly
Sent: Wed 4/04/2007 8:36 AM
To: Year 12 IT Applications Teachers' Mailing List
Subject: Re: [Year 12 IT Apps] Outcome 2 task - query???

[Re-sent - didn't go through first time]

I've just finished U3O2 and the kids took it pretty well after they
(finally) understood what I was asking of them.  Freak not out too
mightily.

Remember the site is only meant to be a prototype, so it's like a sample
of what a real site might look like.

Furthermore, features can be simulated so it only has to appear as if a
virtual team could use it to satisfy their knowledge sharing and
decision making.

My kids spent most of their production time in Photoshop and Microsoft
Image Composer doctoring screenshots of Wikis, blogs, email lists etc
that they'd found on the web.  They'd change the wording in the
screenshot to suit the case study I gave them and their web page merely
loads the the image and it looks like it had leapt to a working PHP tool
(for example).

In Dreamweaver, you can VERY easily create image maps, so my clever
bunnies had fun putting maps over pictures of buttons so when someone
clicked on the right part of a picture of a screen showing "secure login
button" (for example), Dreamweaver jumped to a page as if they had
actually logged in.  They had quite a lot of fun doing that sort of thing.

Only a couple of my kids actually went as far as creating their own
forum or wiki or Coppermine photo gallery (because of time or facility
constraints)... they Googled existing pages on the net, took
screenshots, and manipulated them so they looked "genuine".

What I was looking for was that they could show me they understood what
tools a virtual team would use for what purposes, and give me an idea of
what such a site would look like in action.

HTH

Mark

Kent Beveridge wrote:
> Hi Joseph,
> This next outcome presents me with a big challenge, not being a 'blogger' of sorts. My preference is Front Page but am giving my students the option of either Front Page or Dreamweaver, whatever they are most comfortable with. I tend to not try being an 'expert' in any software and generally dabble in a variety of programs at various levels of skill.
> Personally, this 'blogging' stuff I feel is for a small % of the population and the rest of the course is far more valuable.
> Anyway, I agree that email is a good medium for this virtual component and I am guessing that some teachers will use it as such. There is so much talk about different programs - moodle, wiki etc - that I am getting both confused and flustered and really hope to use the VITTA website and this forum to get me throught this outcome.
> I hope that by about week 3 next term the penny will drop on this stuff for me. As far as I understand, all this 'virtual' component needs to be installed by the techies at network level for it to work. Me, I just want something simple to learn(read QUICK!), and simple to understand/teach.
> I'm no stranger to IT but do have other interests too! I suspect others feel the same, they just don't say it.
> Cheers.
> 
> Kent Beveridge,
> I.T. to years 8-12
> St. Brigids Catholic Sec. College
> Horsham
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> From: itapps-bounces at edulists.com.au on behalf of Joseph Papaleo
> Sent: Mon 2/04/2007 11:20 AM
> To: Year 12 IT Applications Teachers' Mailing List
> Subject: [Year 12 IT Apps] Outcome 2 task - query???
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> Just wondering how others are progressing with this task? 
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> The more I look at the Assessment guide, the more I think that I should teach my class how to
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> 1.    use Dreamweaver - teach them how to create webpages and a website.  Useful for this task and Unit 4, Outcome 1.
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> 2.    setup their own blog (http://edublogs.org <http://edublogs.org/>  <http://edublogs.org/>  then setup a learner blog).  This blog will EASILY allow collaborative learning and knowledge sharing
> 3.    setup their own wiki ( http://www.wikispaces.com/ <http://www.wikispaces.com/site/for/teachers> ) This wiki allows for EASY collaboratiaon and again knowledge sharing <http://www.wikispaces.com/site/for/teachers>
> 4.    if time permits, setup their own bliki or bloki when I find a good one that is easy enough to use.  If you haven't heard of a bliki, it is a combination of blogs and wikis that allow for true collaboration but as it is fairly new, I have not yet found one that seems easy enough to use.  bloki.com <http://bloki.com/>  wasn't working last time I tried.  Anyone know of one?
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> As a former Dreamweaver user who needs to attend a refresher course next week, I can see how a static page allows information to be shared.  Collaborative problem solving can be achieved through e-mail and forums.  Is this enough to "solve" the task? 
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> My dilemma:  If one of my students created a blog or wiki for their SAC task, then I can't see how they can be wrong with the task description given at the top of Page 18 in the IT Assessment Handbook.  However, the 2nd dot point in the "Designing the Assessment Task" asks them to apply appropriate software capabilities of web authoring software, as published in the VCAA Bulletin etc.  According to the VCAA Bulletin #43 (November 2006), it states:
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>       Note that the VCAA list is not exhaustive; learning and assessment does not have to be confined to the functions listed.
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> Is there anything I have missed that will create a problem for me or my class if we use blogs or wikis or blikis?  I can't see one (yet), but as the course is new, I wanted to make sure.
> And yes, I called Paula, but she wasn't available. 
> Thanks in advance,
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> Joseph Papaleo
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