[Year 12 Its] Programming languages - IT 1&2 & Software 3&4

Wed Jun 7 08:36:41 EST 2006

Every year I wonder why actionscript is not on the list and never get a really satsfactory answer... 

PHP is accepted and it hardly even meets one of the criteria (gui), yet an almost full-blown javaesque language that combines with an excellent animation suite is not?? 
Yes Con i know it comes from one of evil software vendors, but it is very good, and another way to get kids enjoying their programming (almost as good as VB!) 
There are plenty of years of database programming ahead for those so inclined...

                        gordon

"Frank Merlino" <frankm at sjc.vic.edu.au> on Tue, 6 Jun 2006 21:15:24 +1000 wrote:
> Tony,
> Perhaps reference manuals that can be purchased...I do not know the criteria the VCAA uses. I think the VCAA would endorse a language if it had a reasonably wide following (which Gamemaker is certainly getting), encouraged the use of structured programming principles, provided a GUI, allowed for file processing such as reading from and writing to SQL etc., and so on...just my thoughts. I reckon the decisions have already been made.
>  
> Regards,
>  
>  
> Frank Merlino
> Technology (IT and Systems) Co-ordinator
> Web Site Manager
> St. Joseph's College
> 135 Aphrasia St, Newtown
> Geelong, Victoria, Australia, 3219
> Phone: 03 52 268100 
> 
> ________________________________
> 
> From: is-bounces at edulists.com.au on behalf of Tony Forster
> Sent: Tue 6/6/2006 9:01 PM
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> Subject: Re: [Year 12 Its] Programming languages - IT 1&2 & Software 3&4
> 
> 
> 
> Thanks, it wasn't taken as negative either
> Still interested in what kinds of materials would support its adoption
> 
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Frank Merlino" <frankm at sjc.vic.edu.au>
> To: "Year 12 Information Technology Systems Teachers' Mailing List"
> <is at edulists.com.au>
> Sent: Tuesday, June 06, 2006 8:47 PM
> Subject: RE: [Year 12 Its] Programming languages - IT 1&2 & Software 3&4
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> 
> > Tony,
> > I was not trying to be negative at all!! Sorry if that's the impression
> > you got!
> > All I was getting at was that some may see these things as reasons for
> > Gamemaker not to be one of the approved languages. Personally I have
> > nothing against the idea.
> >
> > Regards,
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Frank Merlino
> > Technology (IT and Systems) Co-ordinator
> > Web Site Manager
> > St. Joseph's College
> > 135 Aphrasia St, Newtown
> > Geelong, Victoria, Australia, 3219
> > Phone: 03 52 268100
> >
> > ________________________________
> >
> > From: is-bounces at edulists.com.au on behalf of Tony Forster
> > Sent: Tue 6/6/2006 8:08 PM
> > To: Year 12 Information Technology Systems Teachers' Mailing List
> > Subject: Re: [Year 12 Its] Programming languages - IT 1&2 & Software 3&4
> >
> >
> >
> > "would not be a lot of documentation".. "resource materials "
> > Thanks Frank, can you indicate what sort of materials would be required
> > for
> > the effective use of a new language?
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Frank Merlino" <frankm at sjc.vic.edu.au>
> > To: "Year 12 Information Technology Systems Teachers' Mailing List"
> > <is at edulists.com.au>
> > Sent: Tuesday, June 06, 2006 6:52 PM
> > Subject: RE: [Year 12 Its] Programming languages - IT 1&2 & Software 3&4
> >
> >
> >> Tony,
> >>>From the brief reading of the Gamemaker programming pdf file, it seems
> >>>the
> >>>langauge is java-like in many respects. I see no reason why it could not
> >>>be considered other than the fact that there would not be a lot of
> >>>documentation available for it compared with the other "mainstream"
> >>>languages. Having said that, I am sure it is gathering quite a user-base,
> >>>and this often leads to great resource materials being developed.
> >>
> >> Allowing a language such as this may well be what sparks more interest in
> >> the new Software Development course. I suspect more and more school will
> >> be using Gamemaker to motivate and stimulate students to learn
> >> programming.
> >>
> >> Recently Paula indicated that information about the approved programming
> >> languages would appear soon....
> >>
> >> Regards,
> >>
> >> Frank Merlino
> >> Technology (IT and Systems) Co-ordinator
> >> Web Site Manager
> >> St. Joseph's College
> >> 135 Aphrasia St, Newtown
> >> Geelong, Victoria, Australia, 3219
> >> Phone: 03 52 268100
> >>
> >> ________________________________
> >>
> >> From: is-bounces at edulists.com.au on behalf of Tony Forster
> >> Sent: Tue 6/6/2006 6:20 PM
> >> To: Year 12 Information Technology Systems Teachers' Mailing List
> >> Subject: Re: [Year 12 Its] Programming languages - IT 1&2 & Software 3&4
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>> does anyone know whether there is planned to be any adjustment to the
> >>> list
> >>> (and versions) of acceptable programming languages for the new
> >>> curriculii/a/ums
> >>
> >> Rob, I am advised that there is a review of acceptable programming
> >> languages
> >> underway. There is some interest in getting Gamemaker on the list. (One
> >> teacher told me its his preferred way of teaching object oriented code).
> >> Anybody got any thoughts?
> >>
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