[Year 12 IPM] Database software for 2007

Thu Oct 12 19:41:58 EST 2006

No HTML not a "programming" language, although it is often called that. 

e.g. http://www.programmingtutorials.com/

HTML is coding, rather than programming. I shouldn't have used 'programming' instead of 'coding'. 

If I were to use Javascript, I would ask my students, who have never attempted any programming/scripting before to do some HTML 'coding' before they attempted Javascript 'scripting' at year 11. I just threw both in together loosely under the term 'programming'.

Clearly I need to be much more pedantic.  

Stuart Potter
IT co-ordinator
Donald High School

-----Original Message-----
From: ipm-bounces at edulists.com.au on behalf of Robert Hind
Sent: Thu 10/12/2006 5:34 PM
To: Year 12 Information Technology Processing and Management Teachers'MailingList
Subject: Re: [Year 12 IPM] Database software for 2007

HTML programming!

Please. HTML is surely not a programming language.

Comments please.

Robert Hind (Semi-retired)
Ex Traralgon and Ashwood

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Sent: Thursday, October 12, 2006 5:14 PM
Subject: RE: [Year 12 IPM] Database software for 2007

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>
> Donald High School will be using Filemaker Pro, for two of the reasons 
> listed.
>
> - It's easy to learn and easy to use. (good for the students and me too)
> - The school has a fully licenced copy of Filemaker Pro 8.0 (which is a 
> recent version). We used to do our reports on it.
>
> Incidentally we're also a Macintosh school (45 desktops and a couple of 
> laptops) shared by 165-170 students....although we do have one lab of Macs 
> (20) with Intel chips meaning we can use Windows as well.
>
> Incidentally what programming / scripting  languages are being planned by 
> teachers? Having done very little programming, I'm vacillating between 
> Visual Basic (seems to be a few support materials around) and Javascript 
> or HTML programming (obviously ties in well with web design and doesn't 
> need any extra software apart from the source code.)
>
> Cheers
>
> Stuart Potter
> IT co-ordinator
> Donald High School
>
>
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: ipm-bounces at edulists.com.au on behalf of Mark Kelly
> Sent: Thu 10/12/2006 12:39 PM
> To: Year 12 Information Technology Processing and Management 
> Teachers'Mailing List
> Subject: [Year 12 IPM] Database software for 2007
>
> [7th attempt - our whole school has been blacklisted by SpamCop - and we
> hope we are now off the blacklist!]
>
> Hi all.  Here's a frisky cat to throw among the pigeons.
>
> I'm curious what database management software will people be using for
> ITA Unit 3 Outcome 1 next year?
>
> At the VITTA presentation I did on ITA in August, I recommended that if
> we got organised and agreed on a standard tool we could be much more
> efficient when sharing tutorials, sample tasks, tips and hints, sample
> outcomes etc - all of which will be a big in 2007 as we adjust to the
> new course.
>
> The main DBMS contenders I see are:
>
>
> --- MS Access
> - Access is not a standard part of the average MS Office suite (AFAIK),
> so many kids are unlikely to have it at home, so it would be hard to
> assign homework or practice tasks using it.
> - It costs big money if kids have to buy it for home.
> - It costs big money for non-government schools.
> - For most people, it's not as easy to learn as Filemaker is.
>
>
> --- Filemaker
> - Even fewer kids are likely to have Filemaker at home, so assigning
> home practice would be nearly impossible.
> - It's easy to learn (especially creating programming scripts) and easy
> to use.
> - It costs big money if kids had to buy it for home.
> - It costs big money for schools to buy.
>
> (Having said that, it's the database I use for McKinnon's reporting
> package, and the database I'm most skilled with.)
>
>
> --- OpenOffice.org Base
> - It's FREE for students and schools.
> - It's compatible with MS Access (and can read Access database files)
> - It's pretty much as easy to use as Access.
> - There's some online support for it, but more is coming and we can work
> as a team to develop all we need!
> - Did I mention it's FREE?
> - It comes with other open source replacements for Word, Excel,
> Powerpoint, drawing software etc.
> - It even has its own equivalent of VBA for programming macros.
> - Oh yeah - and it's FREE!
>
>
> --- MySQL
> I only include this because I've heard of one school planning to use it.
>  I would not recommend it because it's far too complex for kids to
> learn from scratch in VCE: too much programming required to get the job
> done.  Way overkill, IMHO.
>
>
>
> If you get some time as the year winds down, how about getting a copy of
> (http://openoffice.org) - it's about 50M to download, and is available
> via WWW and Bittorrent.
>
> Have a play, see what you think.
>
> Cheers
>
> Mark K
>
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