[Year 12 IPM] Re: SpamCop

[Robert Hind]

Having said that I have been blocked again. Hope this gets through..


----- Original Message ----- 
From: Robert Hind 
To: Year 12 Information Technology Processing and Management Teachers'Mailing List 
Sent: Thursday, October 12, 2006 1:29 PM
Subject: SpamCop


Hi Mark,

Had a whole lot of emails to the IPM list bounced back to me thanks to SpamCop. Seems to have been fixed now.

But the problem remains 
  a.. we have a lot of spam email and we would like to get rid of that 
  b.. but we do not want to lose legitimate emails
There are real problems with the automated spam systems. Intelligent (??!!**) though they may be, they are really quite stupid and reject emails for a variety of reasons.

So how can we get rid of spam?

Robert Hind (Semi-retired)
Ex Traralgon and Ashwood


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Mark Kelly" <kel at mckinnonsc.vic.edu.au>
To: "Year 12 Information Technology Processing and Management Teachers'Mailing List" <ipm at edulists.com.au>
Sent: Thursday, October 12, 2006 12:39 PM
Subject: [Year 12 IPM] Database software for 2007


> [7th attempt - our whole school has been blacklisted by SpamCop - and we 
> hope we are now off the blacklist!]
> 
> Hi all.  Here's a frisky cat to throw among the pigeons.
> 
> I'm curious what database management software will people be using for
> ITA Unit 3 Outcome 1 next year?
> 
> At the VITTA presentation I did on ITA in August, I recommended that if
> we got organised and agreed on a standard tool we could be much more
> efficient when sharing tutorials, sample tasks, tips and hints, sample
> outcomes etc - all of which will be a big in 2007 as we adjust to the
> new course.
> 
> The main DBMS contenders I see are:
> 
> 
> --- MS Access
> - Access is not a standard part of the average MS Office suite (AFAIK),
> so many kids are unlikely to have it at home, so it would be hard to
> assign homework or practice tasks using it.
> - It costs big money if kids have to buy it for home.
> - It costs big money for non-government schools.
> - For most people, it's not as easy to learn as Filemaker is.
> 
> 
> --- Filemaker
> - Even fewer kids are likely to have Filemaker at home, so assigning
> home practice would be nearly impossible.
> - It's easy to learn (especially creating programming scripts) and easy
> to use.
> - It costs big money if kids had to buy it for home.
> - It costs big money for schools to buy.
> 
> (Having said that, it's the database I use for McKinnon's reporting
> package, and the database I'm most skilled with.)
> 
> 
> --- OpenOffice.org Base
> - It's FREE for students and schools.
> - It's compatible with MS Access (and can read Access database files)
> - It's pretty much as easy to use as Access.
> - There's some online support for it, but more is coming and we can work
> as a team to develop all we need!
> - Did I mention it's FREE?
> - It comes with other open source replacements for Word, Excel,
> Powerpoint, drawing software etc.
> - It even has its own equivalent of VBA for programming macros.
> - Oh yeah - and it's FREE!
> 
> 
> --- MySQL
> I only include this because I've heard of one school planning to use it.
>  I would not recommend it because it's far too complex for kids to
> learn from scratch in VCE: too much programming required to get the job
> done.  Way overkill, IMHO.
> 
> 
> 
> If you get some time as the year winds down, how about getting a copy of
> (http://openoffice.org) - it's about 50M to download, and is available
> via WWW and Bittorrent.
> 
> Have a play, see what you think.
> 
> Cheers
> 
> Mark K
> 
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> Mark Kelly
> Manager - Information Systems
> McKinnon Secondary College
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