[Year 12 IPM] Database software for 2007

Mark Kelly kel at mckinnonsc.vic.edu.au
Thu Oct 12 15:22:09 EST 2006


And for everyone's further information, no: McKinnon didn't do bad 
spammy things.

It was some other customer of schoolsnet / myinternet / editure (or 
whatever our ISP calls itself this week) who misconfigured something or 
other.

The Spamcop ban affected quite a few schools, apparently.

It's not until you get banned that you realise how much email means to you!

Kevork Krozian wrote:
> Hi Mark,
> 
>  Welcome back ...
> 
> For everyone on the lists , checkout www.dnsstuff.com for some valuable on line tools to see which services are linked to your domain name, which ones are blacklisted (by SpamCop or any other well known service ) as well as any health issues with your domain , hosting, spam loopholes and security holes left open etc.
> 
>  The case of Mckinnon was interesting as their Mail Server ( MX record ) was av1.vicdir.schools.net.au ( IP address 210.11.188.61  ) all of which was banned by SpamCop.
> 
>   Best Wishes
> 
> 
> 
> Kevork Krozian
> IT Manager , Forest Hill College
> k.krozian at fhc.vic.edu.au
> http://www.fhc.vic.edu.au
> Mobile: 0419 356 034
> 
>>>> kel at mckinnonsc.vic.edu.au 10/12/06 12:39pm >>>
> [7th attempt - our whole school has been blacklisted by SpamCop - and we 
> hope we are now off the blacklist!]
> 
> Hi all.  Here's a frisky cat to throw among the pigeons.
> 
> I'm curious what database management software will people be using for
> ITA Unit 3 Outcome 1 next year?
> 
> At the VITTA presentation I did on ITA in August, I recommended that if
> we got organised and agreed on a standard tool we could be much more
> efficient when sharing tutorials, sample tasks, tips and hints, sample
> outcomes etc - all of which will be a big in 2007 as we adjust to the
> new course.
> 
> The main DBMS contenders I see are:
> 
> 
> --- MS Access
> - Access is not a standard part of the average MS Office suite (AFAIK),
> so many kids are unlikely to have it at home, so it would be hard to
> assign homework or practice tasks using it.
> - It costs big money if kids have to buy it for home.
> - It costs big money for non-government schools.
> - For most people, it's not as easy to learn as Filemaker is.
> 
> 
> --- Filemaker
> - Even fewer kids are likely to have Filemaker at home, so assigning
> home practice would be nearly impossible.
> - It's easy to learn (especially creating programming scripts) and easy
> to use.
> - It costs big money if kids had to buy it for home.
> - It costs big money for schools to buy.
> 
> (Having said that, it's the database I use for McKinnon's reporting
> package, and the database I'm most skilled with.)
> 
> 
> --- OpenOffice.org Base
> - It's FREE for students and schools.
> - It's compatible with MS Access (and can read Access database files)
> - It's pretty much as easy to use as Access.
> - There's some online support for it, but more is coming and we can work
> as a team to develop all we need!
> - Did I mention it's FREE?
> - It comes with other open source replacements for Word, Excel,
> Powerpoint, drawing software etc.
> - It even has its own equivalent of VBA for programming macros.
> - Oh yeah - and it's FREE!
> 
> 
> --- MySQL
> I only include this because I've heard of one school planning to use it.
>   I would not recommend it because it's far too complex for kids to
> learn from scratch in VCE: too much programming required to get the job
> done.  Way overkill, IMHO.
> 
> 
> 
> If you get some time as the year winds down, how about getting a copy of
> (http://openoffice.org) - it's about 50M to download, and is available
> via WWW and Bittorrent.
> 
> Have a play, see what you think.
> 
> Cheers
> 
> Mark K
> 

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Mark Kelly
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McKinnon Secondary College
McKinnon Rd McKinnon 3204, Victoria, Australia
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