[Year 12 IPM] Potty Problems

Fri Nov 24 08:57:39 EST 2006

No, the alternative is for VCAA to approve texts as meeting the requirements
of the study..
Only some teachers want to be curriculum developers.

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10 out of 5 doctors think it's OK to be schizofrenic. 

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The alternative is for VCAA to write the outcomes and have kids sit them
like exams all at the same time.

And wouldn't we just LOVE that!

Stephen Digby wrote:
> Does outline the flaw in the whole conceptual framework of VCE.... i.e. 
> 
> VCAA produces a set of criteria for a house, and hands it to the 
> workers on site who then have to scurry around to find an archiTEXT - 
> or design the house themselves on the run (as well as build it of course).
> Even when they find an architect, VCAA reminds them that NO architect 
> has been checked or recommended and all workers are ON YOUR OWN 
> (except for friendly self help groups) ......
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> From: ipm-bounces at edulists.com.au [mailto:ipm-bounces at edulists.com.au] 
> On Behalf Of Mark Kelly
> Sent: 23 November 2006 02:47 PM
> To: Year 12 Information Technology Processing and Management 
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> Subject: [Year 12 IPM] Potty Problems
> 
> Hi all.
> 
> I've been poking through the Potts text (uncorrected page proof 
> version
> - I have not seen the final edition) and I'm not feeling at all 
> comfortable about their Unit 3 Outcome 2 sample.
> 
> Keeping in mind what Lady Paula C said in a recent email about the 
> risks of using other people's tasks without due care and attention, I 
> fear the sample task might be leading teachers down a dangerous garden
path...
> and potentially leading to big trouble for students if their means of 
> assessment are audited at the end of 2007 and found to be deficient.
> 
> The Potts sample U3O2 is a chain of travel agencies that want to 
> sharing knowledge.  That's fine, but there is nothing I can see about 
> *collaborative decision making* which is dictated in the study design.
> 
> All the agencies are doing is sharing static information; they are 
> only disseminating, not collaborating.
> 
> Now, if the branches banded together electronically to plan the 
> end-of-year dinner dance, or created a new advertising blitz as a 
> virtual team, it would meet the requirements of the study design.  But 
> at the moment, the info flow is only one way: there is no interaction
between the team members.
> 
> It worries me that if students create a website that does nothing to 
> facilitate communication, knowledge exchange and decision making, they 
> will be severely disadvantaged.
> 
> If you are going to use Potts as your starting point for ITA U3O2, I 
> urge you have a good long look at your task and compare it to what the 
> study design demands of it.
> 
> Hell, ANY task that you borrow from ANY source needs to be checked by 
> you to make sure it's kosher.  I'm not just picking on Potts.
> 
> Be especially careful if you're tempted to use tasks adapted from IPM
> outcomes: most of the ITA outcomes are fundamentally different to 
> those in IPM.
> 
> As Paula said earlier: you are ultimately responsible for your assessment.
> You can't blame the source of borrowed outcomes if they're flawed - 
> even mine!
> 
> (Scurries back to my draft outcomes for a fresh look-see)
> 
> 
> 
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