[Year 12 IPM] OT - Edumail Exasperation
Roland Gesthuizen
rgesthuizen at gmail.com
Wed Nov 15 00:28:08 EST 2006
I think I now know what Ros is looking for.
I have a pop3 e-mail account for home that I use on my home computer with
Thunderbird and another at school .. nothing new there but it is better now
that I dont use these for my edulist mail. Like others on this list, I
resubscribed using a web based email service (there are many around with
ooodles of capacity .. gmail shows this thread of 15 messages as single web
page). Gradually I have added other subscription and mailing lists,
sometimes adding filters and rules to my home and school e-mail to bounce
the messages to the web based service and more rules to move mail for
my-eyes-only back to its proper place. All this rule scripting must add up
to a VCE unit somewhere ..
Our tech had soooooo much junk mail missed that he created a rule to move
all e-mail to a junk folder then other rules to move selected messages back
to the inbox. We had such a good laugh to see it actually working. I have
often wondered if I could make better use of the round, empty filing cabinet
next to my desk. ;-)
Regards Roland
On 14/11/06, Meadows, Roslyn M <Meadows.Roslyn.M at edumail.vic.gov.au> wrote:
>
> mmm ... thanks guys ... lots of food for thought in your suggestions.
>
> I guess everyone is different - to be honest I don't want to mix up my
> edumail with my home and business email (which I collect via Outlook on a
> home desktop). Also Outlook can only be accessed from the home computer.
>
> And my other problem is I have 2 school emails - edumail gets all the
> email which is sent to Bentleigh SC teachers (I am on a year's LWOP) plus
> all the edulists I subscribe to, plus other assorted educational/learning
> emails which I send/receive.
>
> Then I have my Lauriston email - which is easy - open Outlook on my
> Lauriston tablet PC and if I am at school I have instant access to all that
> email, plus I DO use the Calendar for every class/meeting/helpdesk duty/yard
> duty/assembly etc - so that is fine. Once you have set up the calendar it is
> great! I don't do anything with paper nowadays. And I use the Tasks also for
> things I have to do. If I am home or on another computer I can access my
> Lauriston email and calendar via their website.
>
> The problem with edumail is that it is slow...I could send an email with
> nothing in it to myself and it could take half an hour, sometimes I email
> one of the edulists, then someone else may email a similar suggestion, but
> mine won't appear for another 40 minutes or so (and then I look like the
> doofus!!! lol) or I will hit reply, then get sidetracked, and then a blank
> email hits the edulists (embarrassing plus) I know I am not the only person
> this has happened to. Also it has a limit on file sizes sent or received,
> and a limit on how much you can store in the inbox, but I can't find out
> what these limits are or what percentage of that limit I have used. Also
> people tell me they send something to my edumail but I never get it. I just
> think that it is unreliable. Attaching a file takes forever and you can only
> attach one file at a time, received attachments often have to be saved
> before you can open them (now that makes sense eh!! - How do you know
> whether you want to save it when you haven't even seen it!!??!!). The one
> advantage of edumail is its spam free nature.
>
> Anyway the positive of all this is that Peter Thomson had the edumail
> setups for yahoo, so I can now pull my edumail into there, it still looks as
> though I am sending from edumail, but in fact it comes from yahoo, and I
> have 200 Mb of storage and a bar graph shows me what percentage of that I
> have used :))
>
> In the meantime I am hoping that gmail will get it happening so that you
> can import other emails into it, then we will all have 2 gig email storage,
> and if that happens I will probably move everything over to my gmail
> address!!
>
> Thank you all once again, and cheers
>
> Ros Meadows
> Lauriston Girls School
> meadowsro at lauriston.vic.edu.au <mailto:meadowsro at lauriston.vic.edu.au>
> meadows.roslyn.m at edumail.vic.gov.au
>
> Home computers are being called upon to perform many new functions,
> including the consumption of homework formerly eaten by the dog.
> Doug Larson
>
> ________________________________
>
> From: ipm-bounces at edulists.com.au on behalf of Laurie Savage
> Sent: Tue 11/14/2006 10:45 PM
> To: ipm at edulists.com.au
> Subject: Re: [Year 12 IPM] OT - Edumail Exasperation
>
>
>
> I keep playing with Outlook and then find it won't do something or other
> I've always taken for granted in a mail client. I tend to use
> Thunderbird on my WinXP machine but on Linux I use
> Mutt/Fetchmail/Procmail/Sendmail! Just call me old fashioned but I love
> text based apps (speed+) :)
>
> The Thunderbird features I find most useful are the filtering tools
> combined with labelling. Maybe you can do that with Outlook but I never
> found it very configurable - as for importing mail from Outlook Express
> into Outlook - I needed to use Eudora's import/export tools!
>
> Evolution is too Outlook-like for me but I do like its virtual folders
> which have been picked up in Thunderbird as saved dynamic searches.
>
> To return to the original thread - our mail configuration doesn't delete
> ALL the records from pop3.edumail so I have needed to visit EDumail's web
> interface to do an annual cleanout.
>
> Laurie
>
> On 2006-11-14 or thereabouts, Alexakos, Zach Z <
> alexakos.zach.z at edumail.vic.gov.au> wrote:
> > I'm surprised Thunderbird hasn't been mentioned. It has very effective
> > spam filters, not that you need it with edumail, and the security,
> > backup, interface and reliability hits many other programs for six.
> >
> > Eudora is quite a good alternative as well.
> >
> > Zach Alexakos
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: ipm-bounces at edulists.com.au [mailto:ipm-bounces at edulists.com.au]
> > On Behalf Of Jim Bunn
> > Sent: Tuesday, 14 November 2006 9:46 PM
> > To: 'Year 12 Information Technology Processing and
> > ManagementTeachers'Mailing List'
> > Subject: RE: [Year 12 IPM] OT - Edumail Exasperation
> >
> > Cameron,
> >
> > I set up an email account on my laptop using Microsoft Outlook. I used
> > the
> > POP3 (port 110) incoming, and SMTP (port 25) outgoing mail servers. When
> > setting up the email account I put in my edumail username and password
> > in
> > the login details section, and ticked the remember password check box.
> > The
> > email address is my edumail email address. I called the account 'School'
> > for
> > obvious reasons. It works like a charm. All I do is open Outlook every
> > morning. As per most people I don't like Microsoft very much, but I do
> > think
> > Outlook is a quality mail program.
> >
> > Hope this explains it,
> > Jim
> >
> >
> >
> > Jim Bunn
> > CCNA CCAI ITE1
> > Technology Coordinator
> > Hampton Park Secondary College
> > Victoria Australia
> > 8795 9400
> >
> > bunn.jim.c at edumail.vic.gov.au
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: ipm-bounces at edulists.com.au [mailto:ipm-bounces at edulists.com.au]
> > On
> > Behalf Of Cameron Bell
> > Sent: Tuesday, 14 November 2006 9:24 PM
> > To: Year 12 Information Technology Processing and Management
> > Teachers'Mailing List
> > Subject: Re: [Year 12 IPM] OT - Edumail Exasperation
> >
> > Can you run this by me again?
> > Outlook is just a client, not a mail service. Outlook accesses edumail.
> > Cameron
> >
> > Jim Bunn wrote:
> >>
> >> I've used Outlook for over a year now and have all my other mail
> >> directed through Outlook. It is excellent. I never get any spam and
> >> NEVER go to edumail.
> >>
> >> Jim
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Jim Bunn
> >> CCNA CCAI ITE1
> >> Technology Coordinator
> >> Hampton Park Secondary College
> >> Victoria Australia
> >>
> >> 8795 9400
> >>
> >> bunn.jim.c at edumail.vic.gov.au <mailto:bunn.jim.c at edumail.vic.gov.au>
> >>
> >>
> > ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> >>
> >> *From:* ipm-bounces at edulists.com.au
> >> [mailto:ipm-bounces at edulists.com.au] *On Behalf Of *Meadows, Roslyn M
> >> *Sent:* Tuesday, 14 November 2006 8:29 PM
> >> *To:* Year 12 Information Technology Processing and Management
> >> Teachers'Mailing List
> >> *Subject:* RE: [Year 12 IPM] OT - Edumail Exasperation
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Hi Peter,
> >>
> >> Thanks for your advice. I had tried pop and pop2 but not pop3!!!! I
> >> have now got my edumail into yahoo, which is great and means I don't
> >> have to deal with edumail getting full and therefore not receiving
> >> emails, but yahoo only gives 200MB.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> I have several contacts who use incredimail, but can you access it
> >> from the web? For example - when I am at home or school etc? I have to
> >
> >> keep my main email on my desktop at home (it's the business computer),
> >
> >> have a laptop for school, which is set up to use outlook for school
> >> mail (Lauriston mail until 12/12/06), and edumail. I also have a
> >> gmail, and apparently one of the most requested features for gmail
> >> (apart from 'save draft') is to be able to collect other pop mail.
> >> When that happens my life will be complete!!! :))
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Thanks once again, and may the sun shine on you !!
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Ros Meadows
> >>
> >> Lauriston Girls School
> >>
> >> meadowsro at lauriston.vic.edu.au <mailto:meadowsro at lauriston.vic.edu.au>
> >>
> >> meadows.roslyn.m at edumail.vic.gov.au
> >> <mailto:meadows.roslyn.m at edumail.vic.gov.au>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Home computers are being called upon to perform many new functions,
> >> including the consumption of homework formerly eaten by the dog.
> >> **Doug Larson**
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> > ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> >>
> >> *From:* ipm-bounces at edulists.com.au on behalf of Peter and Di
> >> *Sent:* Tue 11/14/2006 6:28 PM
> >> *To:* Year 12 Information Technology Processing and Management
> >> Teachers'Mailing List
> >> *Subject:* Re: [Year 12 IPM] OT - Edumail Exasperation
> >>
> >> Hi Ros,
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> I use "Incredimail" and "pull" all my mail account into the one place,
> >
> >> including Edumail and Hotmail.
> >>
> >> The setup for Edumail is; Incoming mail pop3.edumail.vic.gov.au
> >> (you were close) port 110
> >>
> >> Outgoing
> >> mail smtp.edumail.vic.gov.au port 25 which I think are the
> > defaults.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> As an aside, I can reply to //any// of my emails from //any// of my
> >> emails simply by selecting "From" on a toolbar.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Hope this helps
> >>
> >> Peter Thomson
> >>
> >> recently retired (that's for Robert Hind)
> >>
> >> Cheltenham Secondary College
> >>
> >> /-------Original Message-------/
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> */From:/* Meadows, Roslyn M
> ><mailto:Meadows.Roslyn.M at edumail.vic.gov.au>
> >>
> >> */Date:/* 11/14/06 14:32:33
> >>
> >> */To:/* IPM List <mailto:ipm at edulists.com.au>
> >>
> >> */Subject:/* [Year 12 IPM] OT - Edumail Exasperation
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Hi everyone
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> I would like to become divorced from Edumail, and go for custody of
> >> our 675 children (ie my inbox in edumail)
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> * Roland has the great idea of using gmail, and I used to use
> >> Yahoo mail and import my edumail into it, but I have some
> >> questions relating to the whole process.
> >>
> >> * The old version of yahoo still supports (I think) migrating my
> >> edumail into it - but whereas it used to work it no longer does
> >> - does anyone know the pop address to use (I thought it was
> >> pop.edumail.vic.gov.au)
> >>
> >> * How can I do this in gmail? Does anyone know how to import other
> >> pop mail into gmail - if in fact it can be done? I would like to
> >> avoid using too many email addresses for education related
> >> stuff. gmail will hold 2 gig of mail whereas yahoo holds 200 mb,
> >> so obviously gmail would be preferable. I also need to be able
> >> to get onto my edumail wherever I am (ie via the web)
> >>
> >> * What is the size limit of edumail folders and how can I find out
> >> how much space I have left? You used to be able to do this until
> >> edumail went to a MS Exchange server.
> >>
> >> * If I am near my capacity in edumail do I get a warning email, or
> >> does it just stop delivering email to your inbox?
> >>
> >> Any help would be much appreciated - thanks
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Ros Meadows (being psychologically abused by edumail)
> >>
> >> Lauriston Girls School
> >>
> >> meadowsro at lauriston.vic.edu.au <mailto:meadowsro at lauriston.vic.edu.au>
> >>
> >> meadows.roslyn.m at edumail.vic.gov.au
> >> <mailto:meadows.roslyn.m at edumail.vic.gov.au>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Home computers are being called upon to perform many new functions,
> >> including the consumption of homework formerly eaten by the dog.
> >> **Doug Larson**
> >>
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> Laurie Savage
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> Pascoe Vale Girls College, Pascoe Vale, VIC.
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Roland Gesthuizen - ICT Coordinator - Westall Secondary College
http://www.westallsc.vic.edu.au
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