[Year 12 IPM] Staffing for IT Support/Technician Team

Mon May 8 10:14:10 EST 2006

Hello Janet,

I have successfully loaded and run PhotoStory with Year 5s without any
constraints.  The requirement for your users to have administrator
rights to operate it must have been set by your network tech.

Maree Duivenvoorden
Head of Year 9
Toorak College
Old Mornington Road
Mount Eliza 

039 7887 252

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On Behalf Of Bane, Janet A
Sent: Monday, 8 May 2006 9:55 AM
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Subject: RE: [Year 12 IPM] Staffing for IT Support/Technician Team 

Hi Therese

At our school I have experienced similar problems - obviously network
security is important but at what cost?  Do we have to "lock down"
students so tightly that they can't get the full value out of the many
and varied software options out there?

At the moment I am having issues with Photostory - a fairly innocuous
program, I would have thought.  Our technician has loaded it onto one of
our labs (reluctantly) however it's not working at the moment because he
says kids have to have administrator's rights to operate it.  Have other
schools had this problem, and if so, how have they worked around it?

Janet Bane
Patterson River SC

p.s.  I don't want this to turn into a "technician-bashing session!"

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From: ipm-bounces at edulists.com.au on behalf of Therese Keane
Sent: Mon 08-May-06 8:25 AM
To: Year 12 Information Technology Processing and Management
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Subject: RE: [Year 12 IPM] Staffing for IT Support/Technician Team
Hello Lesley

I read your response with immense interest. I have a real issue with too
much security in schools. When security is so tight, the ability to do
everyday tasks can become very tedious. Whilst I understand the need for
security, I also feel that if it is too strict, it starts to attract
criticism from the users when normal tasks are restricted. 

In one school I worked at, students were not able to right mouse click
and copy pictures from the Internet. Even some of the menus from
Internet Explorer were disabled. Another example was the disabling of
USB ports on all computers. I have worked in schools where network
policies are so strict that it renders the computers almost useless.
Surely there needs to be a balance of allowing users the ability to do
normal tasks without having to go to the Network administrator each time
you need a particular ban lifted?

In terms of your last comment that "boys are destructive" - I have
worked in boys schools, and I would have to disagree with your comment.
I experienced very little vandalism in my time. I had the occasion CD
ROM broken from time to time, but it might have been two or three in the
entire year. I never had issues with hacking and the students treated
the technology with respect. There was a genuine interest in the
technology and infrastructure from the students. Now that I work in a
girls' school, girls' in general do not talk to me or the technicians
about technology or infrastructure. Does this mean they are less
interested? Does been less interested in technology mean they are less
destructive? Or are they two separate and unrelated issues....?

Regards
Therese Keane

Director of ICT
Genazzano FCJ College

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From: ipm-bounces at edulists.com.au [mailto:ipm-bounces at edulists.com.au]
On Behalf Of Lesley Humphries
Sent: Saturday, 6 May 2006 11:12 PM
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Hi Lucy,

At Santa Maria College, we are lucky to have a very good non-teaching
technician who has a degree in IT. He does just about everything, from
networking, security, physical repairs, purchasing, software evaluation
and staff and student support... he's great. We recently decided to put
on an IT trainee (he works full time, but gets paid to go to TAFE one
day a week, or less). He is also great value. The only time we get
outside support is when we extend the network - we employ a cabling
company to lay the cables. The same company arranged our CCTV.

I am the e-learning co-ordinator, and I am the link between the
technician and the staff. I also do PD. It is a POL 2 position. We also
have a portal manager who is also a teacher with time release.

Our staff were all provided with laptops at the start of last year. They
are expected to take them to class with them as we do on-line
attendances each lesson.

We have about 900 students, and about 22! 0 desktop computers available
in various classrooms, labs and hubs etc for students, so I guess our
ratio is about 1:4 or so.

I know that many schools our size employ three or more people to do the
work that our one technician does. I think one of the reasons that he is
able to do such a good job is that we are very strict with security.
Students can't download programs or any large files; neither can staff
without permission. We are also lucky that we are a girls's school -
girls are no-where as destructive as boys!

Hope this helps

Lesley

> Hi All,
> 
> The admin at my school (Aitken College) want to re-structure the IT
> Support/Technician department. The school has grown over the years
which
> has resulted in a large increase in the number of computers on the
school
> network.
> 
> I was wondering if anyone out there could provide me with the
following
> information relating to their place of ! employment.
> 
> How is the IT Support/Technician teams st ructured at your school?
What are
> the ratios for PC numbers to number of students and PC numbers to
> Technicians? Do you have only internal I.T support or are you provided
> with support from external parties (i.e. experts).
> 
> One last request, are your staff provided with Desktop computers or
Laptops?
> 
> Thank you
> 
> Lucy Gusak
> Head of Inforamtion Technology Faculty
> Aitken College
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