[Year 12 IPM] Re:IT/IP&Mcombined class

[Kevork Krozian]

Hi folks,

 I have had a combined VET IT Cert III Units 1 and 3 classes teaching all 3 
certificates ( Network, Software, and General ), with students from Year 10, 
11 and 12 totalling about 22 students, all in the one room since I can 
remember -- about 5 years ago .
 Yes it can be done with some clever preparation, use of technology to 
organise resources and to make the course as self paced as possible. 
Actually, you could teach 3 or 4 classes in the one room if you really 
tried. But , is it fair or educationally sound ?

In truth, there is less time for interaction, and less time to dig deeper to 
see where students need more help. It is a conveyor belt and you are 
churning out kids by rushing them through. By running faster, jumping higher 
one can get these classes through but I can't help but wonder how much more 
I could do if I could give ALL my time to the one group of students in the 
room.
If you are teaching 2 subjects in the one room, the students get half a 
teacher for their time.

Kevork Krozian
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----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Keith Richardson" <keithcr at fastmail.fm>
To: "Year 12 Information Technology Processing and Management 
Teachers'Mailing List" <ipm at edulists.com.au>
Sent: Wednesday, February 22, 2006 5:41 PM
Subject: Re: [Year 12 IPM] Re:IT/IP&Mcombined class


>I trust that you are finding Potts as fantastic as I am. I have created
> a homework roster for the whole year based on Potts.
> The kids are not eligible to do a sac if their work requirements are not
> up to date (i.e. their potts summaries) and they are allowed to take
> into the tests and sacs their potts summaries.
> I give an end-of-chapter test based on my selection of a number of the
> potts questions, and he even provides the answers via the website.
> I am mentioning this because these approaches streamilne the teachers
> work considerably.
> Ciao, Keith.
> PS Units 3 & 4 Homework have been already put onto this list. K
>
>
> On Wed, 22 Feb 2006 14:28:35 +1100, "Sharma, Yogeeta Y"
> <sharma.yogeeta.y at edumail.vic.gov.au> said:
>>
>> Hi Guys,
>>
>>
>>
>> Thanks for replying.
>>
>>
>>
>> The major problem I am facing  is the class size, like Andrew said. I
>> have 18 Year 11's and 6 Year 12's.
>>
>> I am also new to the system, i.e. just a year of IP&M experience and we
>> have switched from on-line-text to Potts this year.
>>
>>
>>
>> Yogeeta Sharma
>>
>> Hampton Park Secondary College
>> Fordholm Road, Hampton Park, Vic. 3976
>> Ph : (03) 87959419.
>>
>> sharma.yogeeta.y at edumail.vic.gov.au
>>
>>
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> Keith Richardson
> Leibler Yavneh College
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> keithcr at fastmail.fm
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