[Year 12 IPM] OT - Printing Policy

Wed Jun 1 21:32:16 EST 2005

Ouch - your pay per print will end up costing me money Mark!!

We had free printing until 2001 when we brought in pay per print - we were sick of kids printing out the whole world wide web and not even bothering to collect it from the printer!

We have successfully used GAIA since Feb 2004, and have recently installed the latest version - which does inform via a popup when your printing credit goes down to $1.50 (or thereabouts) Certainly great software! 

We leave it to the kids (and staff) to choose which printer they print to, especially now we have made the colour printers available from any PC in the school, and when they claim that nothing printed out but they have no credit left, we have a record in GAIA so we can say to them "you printed it to the colour laser in C22 - at 50 cents per copy" A steep learning curve for many but it's amazing how when something hurts the hip pocket they don't make the same mistake twice! If only I could say the same for staff - some of whom have somehow got the colour laser as the default printer on their laptop, and they just hit the print icon multiple times and wonder why it is not coming out of the printer they are sitting beside. One staff member printed out a 75 page (approx) black text document 3 or 4 times on the colour laser before he ran out of credit and wandered off to see our tech.

Personally I avoid the printing issue altogether by making my kids submit everything they do via the intranet. Way to GO! 

Cheers
Ros Meadows
TONS
Bentleigh Secondary College
Ph 9579 1044

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From: ipm-bounces at edulists.com.au on behalf of Mark Kelly
Sent: Wed 1/06/2005 10:46 AM
To: Year 12 Information Technology Processing and Management Teachers'Mailing List
Subject: Re: [Year 12 IPM] OT - Printing Policy

Robert Timmer-Arends wrote:

 > Hello Mark
 > Your policy looks good.
 > We have been using a similar product (PaperCut). The only concern we
have is
 > one that you have covered in your policy (as we have), but we have found
 > hard to police, namely one student using another's account to print
from -
 > this results in the legitimate user suddenly being unable to print.
We have
 > basically pushed the line that this is yet another reason for keeping
their
 > password to themselves (in other words 'stiff bikkies kid'). We have also
 > made some policy changes in Windows XP that make this more difficult
to do.

Thanks, Robert.  We've always been brutal with the monitoring and
enforcement of not using other people's logins (I used the word "people"
rather than "students" in the policy so kids can't use a teacher's login
and start playing bush lawyer).

Kids now accept that it is a capital offence to use someone else's
account (even if the other person logs in for them and keeps their
password secret).  This became necessary after we turned on internet
charging.

We keep reiterating that anything (including things that cost money such
as internet and now printing) that happens under their login name will
be attributable to them alone, so they must protect their passwords.

>
> A second 'concern' is just nuisance value and lasts for as long as it takes
> the teacher and/or student to cotton on: if your account is empty and you
> print, PaperCut doesn't tell you that you have no funds left. The desktop
> appears to print but nothing comes out, so at first it seems that something
> is broke! Many grumbles later one suddenly thinks to check the student's
> print balance....
>
> Regards
> Robert T-A
> Brighton SC

I have not played with Gaia much yet, but I think it would warn that
printing was not happening.  It seems to do pretty well everything else :-)

>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Mark Kelly" <kel at mckinnonsc.vic.edu.au>
> To: "Year 12 Information Technology Processing and Management Teachers'
> Mailing List" <ipm at edulists.com.au>
> Sent: Tuesday, May 31, 2005 2:33 PM
> Subject: [Year 12 IPM] OT - Printing Policy
>
>
>
>>We're just about to turn on print charging for students with Gaia Print
>>   Charger (better late than never). As I worked on our announcement to
>>students, I wondered if other people had experience with such matters
>>and can advise of things I have not anticipated.
>>
>>My draft policy is attached.
>>
>>Any suggestions would be appreciated.
>>
>>--
>>Mark Kelly
>>Manager, Information Systems
>>McKinnon Secondary College

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Manager - Information Systems
McKinnon Secondary College
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