[Year 12 IPM] IPM New to list

[Mark Scott]

It is certainly what I do here at Luther and what I have done previously
at MLC.

 

The allowance has to be something less than a whole class (otherwise you
could just run it as two classes)

 

The most we give here is half (2 periods out of 4 for a normal class per
week).

 

The big advantage is that the subject stays alive for the preceding
years.

 

The alternative is too offer to run the class as a separate class but
except only 2 periods per week to run it (but still teach it for the
whole 4 periods). Yes you are teaching a bigger load but with very small
class sizes as compensation.

 

Mark Scott

Luther College

 

 

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From: ipm-bounces at edulists.com.au [mailto:ipm-bounces at edulists.com.au]
On Behalf Of Andrew Grimshaw
Sent: Tuesday, 6 December 2005 9:35
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Subject: Re: [Year 12 IPM] IPM New to list

 

Margaret makes a very vaild point here - i would argue that if i have to
run a combined course for VCE, where there is a large amount of marking
and preparation, then i ought to be given a small time allowance for it.
The volume of work does depend on the number of students though - what
numbers are we talikng here?

 

Andrew Grimshaw

Colac College

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	From: Lawson, Margaret <mailto:mlawson at stmichaels.vic.edu.au>  

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	Sent: Tuesday, December 06, 2005 9:15 AM

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	I don't have an issue with combined classes, in some sense it
can benefit the kids. At two of my past schools I have run combined
classes because of timetabling clashes (evil timetablers ...). 

	 

	What I do have a problem with is the administration writing it
down as one teaching allotment rather than two. You still have two
courses that you have to structure, assess and write exams for. In a
sense combining the curriculum of two subjects into one class and trying
to get a meaningful structure and lessons is perhaps harder and more
challenging.

	 

	Margaret

	 

	
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[mailto:ipm-bounces at edulists.com.au] On Behalf Of Lel, Ronald A
	Sent: Tuesday, 6 December 2005 9:02 AM
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[mailto:ipm-bounces at edulists.com.au] On Behalf Of Robert Minato
		Sent: Tuesday, 6 December 2005 8:29 AM
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		Some of the class are only YR10s and I believe far from
ready for IPM. Numbers were such that the subject wasn't initially going
to run; however, sufficient students were available to do it as a
combined class. 
		
		It ran as a combined class this year.
		
		
		-- 
		Robert Minato
		Teacher
		Catholic College Wodonga
		02 6059 1222
		
		
		
		 Snipped

		Well good luck Robert. I'd be really interested in
knowing how your DP taught this and what strategies he/she used to
combine 2 classes which, as has already been pointed out, have quite
different philosophies underpinning them. It seems like another case of
administrative expediency replacing kids' education and learning.

		 

		Ron Lel

		Croydon Secondary College

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