[English] RE: english Digest, Vol 27, Issue 8

Fri Aug 8 14:17:22 EST 2008

Hi Simon,

'The Wife of Martin Guerre' by Janet Lewis would meet your
specifications.

Kind regards,
Phadrah Hirschfield
WCC VCE Co-Ordinator / VASS Administrator
WCC Head of English

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Date: Thu, 7 Aug 2008 10:40:24 +1000
From: "Ross, Simon D" <ross.simon.d at edumail.vic.gov.au>
Subject: [English] Year 11 R&R Text
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I am looking for a short novel written by a woman about a girl / woman
for our Year 11 English course. Could someone suggest such a book we
might look at for next year?
Simon Ross
BHSSC

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Date: Thu,  7 Aug 2008 10:56:30 +1000
From: mccurryj at netspace.net.au
Subject: RE: [English] How to market English Language
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There is also a very useful packet of material from VATE, published a
year or 
two ago for the new study design and some fabulous books published in
England 
for their GCE courses in Language. Ring VATE office at 94118500 or look
up the 
resources available on the vate wbsite at www.vate.org.au
I think also that introducing English Language into the school
curriculum over 
time skills up teachers in ways that are very relevant to VCE English,
which in 
its new incarnation draws as much on the 'aspects of language' threads
in CSF 
and VELS- think of contextual understandings and metalanguage or
linguistic 
structures and features- as it does on 'text'. Teachers who start
thinking 
about how to teach English Language also start to think differently/
more 
broadly about teaching text for Reading and Responding and Contextual 
Understandings, as well as Literature!!.  So introducing English
Language adds 
depth to the repertoire of teachers and faculties and is of benefit to
all 
students,who must do an English study.  Janny McCurry

Quoting "WHITBY, Linda" <lwhitby at whitefriars.vic.edu.au>:

> I agree with the points made by the others - it's certainly not the
easier
> subject and requires a lot of work from both the teacher and student.
> 
> Another approach you can use is that it allows students to develop an
> understanding of the English language in context which can assist kids
in the
> 'real world'.  Students with an interest in journalism etc gain a
great deal
> from the subject - especially if they combine it with English.  The
students
> also tend to like that they can apply it to everyday life.
> 
> At present, there are very few new resources for the subject.  Many
people
> are still using the Heinemann textbooks which were published in 2001
and
> correlate with the old study design.  The Macmillain CD ROM is good,
but
> needs editing too. You may need to have this figured out for
Curriculum, so
> best to be in the know about what's out there.  There's been talk of a
new
> textbook now for 3 years.
> 
> Good Luck
> 
> Linda Whitby
> 
> ________________________________
> 
> From: english-bounces at edulists.com.au on behalf of Cleary, Monica M
> Sent: Wed 6/08/2008 5:46 PM
> To: english at edulists.com.au
> Subject: [English] How to market English Language
> 
> 
> Hi,
> 
> I am currently teaching English at Patterson River Secondary College
in
> Carrum.
> 
> I have a dozen students in my two Yr 10 English classes who have shown
an
> interest in studying English Language. There are four or five other
classes,
> and I presume that there are students in them who would also be
interested.
> 
> I am able to take this to the Curriculum Committee at the college, but
I
> would like to have some further details at my fingertips to demistify
the
> subject.
> 
> At present, I find that there is a lack of interest among teachers, or
they
> feel are afraid of the subject's potential for taking students away
from
> mainstream English and Literature. One colleague was interested but
> pessimistic about the chances of success. He suggested that it could
be
> promoted as a subject suitable for boys who are turned off by some
aspects of
> mainstream English.
> 
> A major selling point will be that it is not 'a dry academic subject',
that I
> will be able to fill a class with students and that other schools that
fit
> our demographic are studying it. Is it seen as an exclusive subject.
> 
> All the students I have spoken to are very keen. They include a mix of
> readers, non-readers, writers, language fans, people who like to
discuss
> accents and dialect differences, students with a more scientific bent
and so
> on. A great mix! I do not want to poach students from Literature. It
is
> probably unlikely that I would succeed. I spoke to one boy today,
however,
> who would be keen to do both Lit and En Lang.
> 
> I hope there are some experienced English language teachers who can
help with
> anecdotes, evidence, reasons...whatever, to help me to strengthen my
case,
> 
> Regards,
> 
> Monica Cleary
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