[elearning] Query on iPad research ....

Wed Sep 5 08:18:54 EST 2012

Thank you for sharing your list, Kevork. It looks very extensive. I will
share it with others who are interested in this topic.

Sincerely,
Ziad

On 5 September 2012 08:13, Kevork Krozian <kevork at edulists.com.au> wrote:

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> Really interesting discussion. You make a great point Ziad.****
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> The barometer I guess for many years has been John Hattie with his
> extensive work on “effect size” with 2 groups holding everything else as
> constant as possible except the one difference. ****
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> Quoting : The most prominent meta-meta-analyst in education is probably John
> Hattie <http://www.education.auckland.ac.nz/uoa/home/about/staff/j.hattie>,
> whose work draws on "a total of about 800 meta-analyses, which encompassed
> 52,637 studies, and provided 146,142 effect sizes [...] these studies are
> based on many millions of students" (Hattie, 2009; 15) -
> http://www.learningandteaching.info/teaching/what_works.htm ****
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> Actually I recently compiled a long list of resources trying to separate
> digitization from eLearning – see http://delicious.com/kkrozian ****
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> I would be interested to hear further about what learning actually takes
> place rather than what application is used. The paper mentioned by Trudy is
> really worthwhile and I recommend people have a look at it as it does try
> to balance all the views. ****
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> I would also be very interested to hear from schools who have gone iPad 7
> – 12 and how they have managed delivery of those studies that require more
> than what iPads have delivered to date such as VCE IT, media and existing
> web based flash based resources such as in LOTE, Maths, that have not been
> upgraded to date. ****
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> Are any schools using remote desktop from the student iPads to teach any
> of these classes ?****
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> Kind Regards****
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> *From:* elearning-bounces at edulists.com.au [mailto:
> elearning-bounces at edulists.com.au] *On Behalf Of *Ziad Baroudi
> *Sent:* Tuesday, 4 September 2012 10:51 PM
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> *Subject:* Re: [elearning] Query on iPad research ....****
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> Many argue that validity in the sense used by scientists cannot exist in
> most areas of educational research. I once read something written by
> Seymour Papert in which he says that something such as  "using a computer"
> is not a single variable we can study while keeping all else constant. The
> whole point of using a computer is that it changes everything. ****
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> Even when iPads have been around for a long time and meta-research is
> available on their "effect", we will be looking at an average "effective
> size" that brings together all kinds of different uses of the device. Two
> studies, one hugely successful and one hugely unsuccessful, may result in
> an average effect size that is close to zero. It would be more useful to
> look into the details of the successful study to see what practices we can
> adopt.****
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> Sincerely,****
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> Ziad.****
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> On 4 September 2012 21:33, Hutchison, Geoffrey G <
> hutchison.geoffrey.g at edumail.vic.gov.au> wrote:****
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> Good luck Kevork on finding valid education research. Very little is valid
> in the sense that double blind trials are almost non-existent and the use
> of
> control groups rare.
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> Virtually all education research is anecdotal in terms of evidence, and
> thus
> invalid in terms of true research.
>
> Geoff Hutchison,
> McGuire College****
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> On 4/09/12 6:24 PM, "Kevork Krozian" <kevork at edulists.com.au> wrote:****
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> > Hi Folks,
> >
> >    If I may ask a very broad question, is anyone across recent research
> > covering the impact of iPads and apps in learning
> > achievement/improvement at any level ( primary, secondary, tertiary ) ?
> >
> > Specifically, I am wondering if there is a control group of any type such
> > as alternate tablets, mobile devices,  netbooks, MacBook Air, MacBook Pro
> > etc etc.
> >
> > Additionally I am wondering if a baseline is used in the study such as "
> > Both groups, control and iPad users entered the study at VELS level x. At
> > the end of the study the control group was at y and the iPad users were
> at
> > z on the VELS or any other measurement used".
> >
> > Generalized findings such as students showed improvement in confidence
> > with the use of technology or could read better ( than what ? not having
> > any technology or having a laptop or working in labs ? ) will not be as
> > useful IMHO.
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> > It is a topic that has come up in discussion and I am looking for both
> > research as well as anecdotal evidence from schools on the iPad journey
> if
> > I may please.
> >
> > Kind Regards
> > Kevork
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