[elearning] TeachMeet in a Pub - Sat 2 Feb 2013

[Andrew Shortell]

it is the bottom line

	Bottom line.....find some techs worth their $s (not so easy) 

most good techs do not want to stay in schools because of the money; many tech support companies move their "most improved" techs  out of schools and into the business world where they earn lots more (for them and tech support company) As a TAFE Assessor I saw this happen quite a bit in cert 4 in IT and even the students doing ASBAs cert 3 in IT were aiming to not be in schools

Ultimately we have to get the techs to share --> as generously as members of these lists share --> some do share but not like on these lists.

Generally we, as IT teachers, stay in schools because we enjoy teaching or have a "vocation" to use a really old fashioned word (are you out there Mr Hind?)

Many techs are not student orientated, their "vocation" is not about learning and teaching, not about inspiring success  etc etc. it is about running computer gear and networks. students spend a lot of time stuffing things up deliberately and many teachers do so accidentally.
As a tech that can be very frustrating - business people do not sabotage their own networks and generally pay better !!

	Bottom line.....find some techs worth their $s (not so easy) and KEEP them

Andrew 

(off the soap box for now --> yes i want more money but I feel SSOs are woefully underpaid and most techs are just paid as SSOs)
	
Andrew Shortell
Educator
CRC Melton


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On 17/12/2012, at 10:13 PM, "Hutchison, Geoffrey G" <hutchison.geoffrey.g at edumail.vic.gov.au> wrote:

> Ahem,
>  
> Geoff
> McGuire College
>  
> From: elearning-bounces at edulists.com.au [mailto:elearning-bounces at edulists.com.au] On Behalf Of Robinson, Jarrod J
> Sent: Monday, 17 December 2012 1:48 PM
> To: elearning Teachers' Mailing List
> Subject: Re: [elearning] TeachMeet in a Pub - Sat 2 Feb 2013
>  
> I can't more strongly not support the use of android tablets in educational settings for various reasons. I say this having worked in both sides of the fence developing apps for both iphone/iPad and Android
>  
> 1- most versions of the android software don't allow enterprise wireless connection. This rules out connecting to edustar wireless in most cases. Android ICS allows enterprise connection
>  
> 2- the openness of the android system leads to security issues. Fraudulent apps and data mining is rife in the android world with educational apps targeting kids and farming data. Heavens....hadn’t heard that threat before of any OS
>  
> 3- device segmentation leads to less actual apps in the store. Reason being that it becomes increasingly difficult to program android devices. Gobble-de-gook
>  
> 4- cost. iPad vs Samsung Galaxy tab = iPad win. Any other android tablet is not even worth comparison. Except the google nexus which won't connect to edustar. Whaoa....tested them all have you?
>  
> 5- community. Thousands of educators all using iPads in education, lots of best practice examples and resources. Yeah, yeah, sure.....yawn
>  
> Btw, heaps of win 8 tablets about to hit the market.
>  
> Bottom line.....find some techs worth their $s (not so easy) and android, or any other solution, is an option.
>  
> Jarrod 
> 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone (ahem)
> 
> On Dec 17, 2012, at 1:38 PM, "Taylor, Charmaine C" <taylor.charmaine.c at edumail.vic.gov.au> wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> Does anyone use Samsung Tablets as 24/7 1:1 computing devices for their students?  We have netbooks for most year levels but the apparent loss of NSSCF funding means we can’t afford to provide netbooks for all levels next year. I was wondering if we might use tablets.
>  
> Charmaine Taylor
>  
> From: elearning-bounces at edulists.com.au [mailto:elearning-bounces at edulists.com.au] On Behalf Of Roland Gesthuizen
> Sent: Thursday, 13 December 2012 6:33 PM
> To: Year 12 IT Applications Teachers' Mailing List; eLearning mailing list
> Cc: Celia Coffa
> Subject: [elearning] TeachMeet in a Pub - Sat 2 Feb 2013
>  
> G'day fellow ICT educators
>  
> I am hosting the next Teachmeet in a Pub. (now that made you sit up and pay attention) Yes, a #Melbourne pub! You don't have to drink, you can stand around eating peanuts and drinking water if you like. Otherwise, join me to raise a toast to the new year and join me for some nosh afterwards. All the badly dressed IS and ITA teachers will be there.
>  
> If you are wondering what is a TeachMeet, well you have to come to find out. They are informal, fun, very informative and a growing movement.
>  
> As it is early 2013, it is a good idea to stick the date in your diary. To register interest or offer to run a 2 min talk on a soap box, just add your details to the honour role.
>      http://teachmeetmelbourne.wikispaces.com/2013+-+Feb+2
>  
> Love to have you on board or to answer any burning questions you may have. My shout :-)
>  
> Regards Roland @rgesthuizen
> 
> Roland Gesthuizen | eLearning Leader 
> Keysborough College DEECD
> http://about.me/rgesthuizen
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