[elearning] BYO device? [Spam score:12%]

Roland Gesthuizen rgesthuizen at gmail.com
Fri Jul 8 03:35:41 EST 2011


Oliver, it is worth checking out Inkscape if you are looking at making
logos. From memory, the ICTEV and VITTA run some workshops about this. The
passive supervision you are talking about is what we already do at home with
our children. I am confident that this will scale into the classroom with
the right checks and balances. Yes, part of that BYOT smart is to consider
wireless printing using features provided by some of the new HP Printers
such as AirPrint.

I wonder if there is more we need to consider we we move towards this model.
I am collecting some links on Diigo
http://www.diigo.com/user/rgesthuizen/byot

Regards Roland

On 6 July 2011 10:46, Oliver Murray <omurray at gegs.wa.edu.au> wrote:

>  Great discussion****
>
> I think you have nailed it with  “Pretty soon we will be saying to
> students "And you need an internet capable device that can do A,B,C."“****
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> Hopefully schools spent their DER on cost funding with this in mind and
> covered their sites with easy to access robust and reliable high speed
> wireless access to the internet and the biggest fattest pipe they could get
> rather than build a state of the art data center and implement more measure
> to control student ICT use (aka getting in the way of learning)****
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> With duty of care and examinations this is a tricky area but inevitable ($
> will override the moral high ground) all we need are few brave school to
> lead. ****
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> With respect to ****
>
> “I think it is ironic that teachers that railed against the dominance of
> Microsoft in schools are now insisting on iPads rather than "a tablet".***
> *
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> The iPad and other apple device are focussed on the user as opposed to the
> corporation. It all about users experience being the primary concern rather
>  than the primary concern being ease of rolling out identical units that can
> be centrally controlled. Use cloud storage and if they experiment with every
> setting and stop the unit working, reset and start again, freedom and
> experimentation sounds like a great way to learn ;-)****
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> On a similar topic I recently collected a logo creation task and put no
> restrictions on software.****
>
> Every student created a unique and wonderful logo and the software included
> paint, word, publisher, photoshop, illustrator****
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> Regards,****
>
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> Oliver Murray****
>
> Head of ICT****
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> *From:* elearning-bounces at edulists.com.au [mailto:
> elearning-bounces at edulists.com.au] *On Behalf Of *Cameron Bell
> *Sent:* Tuesday, 5 July 2011 6:01 PM
> *To:* elearning Teachers' Mailing List
> *Subject:* [elearning] BYO device? [Spam score:12%]****
>
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> I know it's holidays, (even though I am doing reports - still) but the list
> has been too quiet lately. Is everyone too busy on FB or Twitter? Are the
> lists in the Autumn of their years? Are there only a few of us dinosaurs
> still using them?****
>
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> Just read this article and thought although it is about the Blackberry, the
> underlying reasons will also apply to schools not too far down the track.*
> ***
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> http://www.theage.com.au/digital-life/mobiles/blackberry-becoming-obsolete-20110705-1h07z.html
> ****
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> *Employees have been pressuring companies to allow them to use their
> iPhones and their Androids and their other smartphones for business, instead
> of a company-issued BlackBerry.*****
>
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> *Indeed, BlackBerry's slump is signaling another trend: "the demise of the
> corporate IT crowd," said Rodger Morrow, a Sewickley, Philadelphia-based
> speechwriter and communications consultant. "Corporations are now trying to
> get out of the hardware business," he said.*****
>
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> I can see the attraction to Gov Ed departments of being able to offload the
> cost of ICT infrastructure to the students/parents.****
>
> Consumer devices like iPads/tablets and iPhones/Android are now the driving
> force in ICT, not computers and laptops.****
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> Pretty soon we will be saying to students "And you need an internet capable
> device that can do A,B,C."****
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> BYO device is moving closer. Which is a good thing IMHO - it will stop
> schools trying to pander to the latest cool device and force them to go back
> to examining the curriculum in a device-independant way. No more "showcase"
> schools giving free publicity to <insert company name> and acting as
> de-facto sales departments by insisting on one particular brand, rather than
> giving the students choice. ****
>
> I think it is ironic that teachers that railed against the dominance of
> Microsoft in schools are now insisting on iPads rather than "a tablet".***
> *
>
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> In a few years, I can see myself teaching a concept and rather than showing
> them how to use an app, or devising the activity with a particular app in
> mind, I'll be showing the students the criteria an app will need to satisfy
> to help them in a particular subject and letting them choose.****
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> Wondering what others are thinking.****
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> Cheers****
>
> Cameron****
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> PS: Here is the Twitter version if can't handle more than 140 characters
> before you lose concentration:****
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>  http://bit.ly/m14IhS - Should/can students BYO smart device 2 save govt
> $, & give them choice? Y do schools still insist on 1 brand?****
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 <http://globe.gov/about/>  <http://www.google.com/educators/gta.html> Roland
Gesthuizen - Learning Technologies Coordinator
Keysborough Secondary College <http://www.keysboroughsc.vic.edu.au>, Acacia
Campus

B.App.Sci., M.Ed.(ICT), ACCE Professional Associate, Educator of the year
2010

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