[elearning] [Year 12 SofDev] Ipad in schools

Sun Nov 14 22:06:30 EST 2010

Many reckon that Adobe have already quietly given up on Flash and are
preparing behnd the scenes the HTML5 export for their applications. You may
notice that websites such as Matheletics can now easily just as easily be
accessed on the iPad or even on smart phones such as the iPhone. Many video
websites now work on iPhones (not all but those that don't are slowly
evaporating) .. even whilst google makes use of Flash for street view, they
are one of the big champions to push for the early adoption of the subset of
HTML5.

http://news.softpedia.com/news/Adobe-Flash-CS5-Can-Export-to-HTML5-Canvas-139597.shtml

I don't have flash turned on my desktop and really, dont miss it all that
much. You can suggest to your eLearing team that they do the same as it will
help nail down this behaviour. We deploy Safari without flash on all the
desktops so users dont have to second guess what works with flash and what
does not, they can just test their link in another browser.

It is also worth read the thinking behind this from Steve Jobs at Apple and
the opinion of Microsoft.
     http://www.apple.com/hotnews/thoughts-on-flash

http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/30/microsoft-weighs-in-the-future-of-the-web-is-html5/

http://hothardware.com/News/Microsofts-Take-On-Flash-HTML5-Is-The-Future-But-Well-Support-Adobe/

My personal take on this is that the it is that there is a good case to be
made for open standards such as HTML5. We have seen this before when sites
started playing about with fancy browser features such as layers, Just a
matter of time ..

Regards Roland

On Sun, Nov 14, 2010 at 10:22 AM, Kevork Krozian
<K.Krozian at fhc.vic.edu.au>wrote:

> Hi Folks,
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> Sorry for cross posting but very topical for our elearning colleagues ...
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> I have spoken to 3 schools who are doing just this, Ipads at year 7 and
> when I raise these concerns with Flash and Java not running I get a blank
> stare.
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> Is there anyone out there who has considered the issues and found a
> resolution/workaround or other approach apart from html5 will solve all the
> problems which may or may not happen and may or may not take 3 to 5 years
> ....
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> Kind Regards
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> Kevork
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> *From:* sofdev-bounces at edulists.com.au [mailto:
> sofdev-bounces at edulists.com.au] *On Behalf Of *Don Morelli (Optus)
> *Sent:* Thursday, 4 November 2010 6:45 PM
> *To:* 'Year 12 Software Development Teachers' Mailing List'
> *Subject:* Re: [Year 12 SofDev] Ipad in schools
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> The decision has been made Allison which is unfortunate for your school as
> not only does the iPad not support Flash but it also does not support Java.
> So you can’t run java apps like Geogebra in Maths, which is worth its weight
> in gold. There are many programs that teachers use to help students to
> understand concepts in particular learning areas that are not about
> communication, collaboration and research (some of the web 2.0 stuff). These
> will not run on the iPad. It will be interesting to see how much of the
> “cloud computing software “ will run on it without problems.  Try running
> Mathletics and I think that you will have a problem with that as well.  I am
> sure that in the next year or so things will change, but the range of
> activities that you can carry out on the iPad now, that have educational
> value is limited.
>
> Good luck in trying to develop a curriculum-at least it is only year 7
>
> Cheers Don
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> *From:* sofdev-bounces at edulists.com.au [mailto:
> sofdev-bounces at edulists.com.au] *On Behalf Of *Allison KENINS
> *Sent:* Thursday, 4 November 2010 6:00 PM
> *To:* sofdev at edulists.com.au
> *Subject:* [Year 12 SofDev] Ipad in schools
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>
>
> Hi All
>
> Sorry for not being specific to Software Development.
> My school is introducing iPads to our incoming year 7’s and throwing out
> the textbooks in all subjects. As my other method is maths and this is a
> concern to a few of the other teachers, I was wondering if anyone else’s
> school is doing something similar and wanting to know what you think. Major
> concern for us is that we use lots of websites that are Flash based and
> therefore wont work (as far as I’ve been told) and we now need to redevelop
> our year 7 curriculum before the start of next year.
>
> Any comments would be welcome.
>
> Allison
> Ringwood Secondary College
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