[elearning] What do e-learning coordinators do ?
Kevork Krozian
kevork at edulists.com.au
Sat Nov 7 19:11:24 EST 2009
Hi Antoinette,
We have 300 computers and 1 routine tech and myself. I teach 8 classes:
1. Yr 8 IT x 2
2. Yr 9 IT
3, Yr 11 IT
4. Yr 12 Software Development
5. Yr 11 VET IT Cert III
6. Yr 12 VET IT Cert III
7. Cisco CCNA Exploration 2nd year
Last year my VET IT Cert III student won the Premier's award and my Cisco class ( 2 teams ) took 1st and 2nd prize in the Victorian Cisco championships.
I get specialist help for 8 hrs per week and manage about 16 servers on 5 VM servers on 3 Network Operating systems - Win 2003, Novell Netware and Linux. In addition I have developed a lot of home made solutions listed in earlier emails . Some examples:
a) parent teacher online booking system
b) password resets of student accounts by teachers ( web based ) to allow autonomy for teachers in classrooms without
chasing technicians when 2 Year 8 students can't log in at the start of a rowdy class.
c) internet credit resets by a teacher ( web based ) when a student in the middle of an online activity runs out of internet credits -- as for point (b)
d) teacher enabled browsing of student on line browsing history
e) resource bookings of classrooms, labs, equipment,
f) automated account creation for new students to get them on the network servers
g) filtering system for internet traffic so we are not blocked from educational resources
h) should we build our own Web, intranet, DNS, Mail, proxy servers, remote access, VPN servers ?
i) should we build our own student subject selections on line to remove the need for paper
The job has grown for the next 3 years , still as a Leading Teacher position ( which it was up to now ) to include elearning - embedding elearning in the curriculum, training staff, AND managing the 1:1 laptop program rollout ( 100 laptops ) and implementation of the epotential DEECD policy and elearning strategic plan.
What do people think about this development ?
Kind Regards
Kevork Krozian
kevork at edulists.com.au
www.edulists.com.au
Tel: 0419 356 034
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From: Antoinette Siarabalos
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Sent: Saturday, November 07, 2009 6:07 PM
Subject: RE: [elearning] What do e-learning coordinators do ?
Hi Kevork,
We have 4 full time technicians which is about right for a school of our size and the ratio you mentioned. Believe me they are constantly running for one reason or another. They are very good and try hard to keep me informed of issues but they can't be everywhere, everyday either.
They all ensure that the network is running smoothly and do the obvious tasks like paper in printers, check sign in sheets for issues with computers. However, there are times when tasks take longer than expected and things get overlooked.
My point here is that I am sure all schools have these issues and it would be interesting to know how other schools handle protocols and procedures with staff using ICT resources.
Thanks for the interest!
Regards,
Antoinette
Antoinette Siarabalos
eLearning Coordinator
Emmaus College
Vermont South & Burwood Campuses
From: elearning-bounces at edulists.com.au [mailto:elearning-bounces at edulists.com.au] On Behalf Of Kevork Krozian
Sent: Saturday, 7 November 2009 5:30 PM
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Subject: Re: [elearning] What do e-learning coordinators do ?
Hi Antoiette,
The industry ratio is about 1 full time tech for each 100 computers. How many techs do you have to work with ?
Kind Regards
Kevork Krozian
kevork at edulists.com.au
www.edulists.com.au
Tel: 0419 356 034
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From: Antoinette Siarabalos
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Sent: Saturday, November 07, 2009 11:31 AM
Subject: RE: [elearning] What do e-learning coordinators do ?
Hi Kevork, David & Cameron,
I agree with all that has been said! It is a huge role and all the tasks you have mentioned are part of my role description! I would like to add another task; policing the use and care of ICT resources. (Another task to the endless list of duties!) Some staff expect equipment to be working properly, but are not prepared to follow procedures to ensure that all resources are looked after. With 7 computer labs over 2 campuses and 6 laptop trolleys it is a difficult task to keep track of all these resources.
The number of times I have checked labs to ensure that there are enough chairs, computer stations are in order, removed rubbish, switched off screens, data projectors & computers, checked that printers are not jammed etc. Not to mention keeping track of the laptop trolleys to ensure that all laptops are connected to power cables. Only this week one trolley had the main power board completely vandalized with the main cord ripped and the steel prongs which go into the power point completely bent back! Checking who booked the trolley showed that there was no booking. The sign in sheets were also not filled. What options are there?
I am thinking that I may have a random audit of rooms and resources at certain times of the day?? But then again, what do I say to the teachers concerned? "You can't use the resources again?" A very difficult situation! I don't believe it is my job to discipline staff.
Anyone have any other ideas?
Having said all of this, I enjoy my job. But, there are days when I have to say "I just can't do it all and I have a life with my family!"
My thoughts on a demanding role!
Regards,
Antoinette
Antoinette Siarabalos
eLearning Coordinator
Emmaus College
Vermont South & Burwood Campuses
From: elearning-bounces at edulists.com.au [mailto:elearning-bounces at edulists.com.au] On Behalf Of Kevork Krozian
Sent: Saturday, 7 November 2009 9:37 AM
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Subject: Re: [elearning] What do e-learning coordinators do ?
Hi Cameron,
Maybe all elearning/Learning Technologies/ICT coordinators should get together on this one.
The job description is bigger than Ben Hur.
Let me see, you need to :
1. "Manage" the technicians and the network infrastructure and development . Ahhhh, shall we go SANs , VM, multi Network Operating system ( shall we go Windows, Novell, Linux or all or some ? ), application distribution through NAL or some other delivery method, imaging of rooms with Zenworks or other products, should we build our own :
a) parent teacher online booking system
b) password resets of student accounts by teachers ( web based ) to allow autonomy for teachers in classrooms without
chasing technicians when 2 Year 8 students can't log in at the start of a rowdy class.
c) internet credit resets by a teacher ( web based ) when a student in the middle of an online activity runs out of internet credits -- as for point (b)
d) teacher enabled browsing of student on line browsing history
e) resource bookings of classrooms, labs, equipment,
f) automated account creation for new students to get them on the network servers
g) filtering system for internet traffic so we are not blocked from educational resources
h) should we build our own Web, intranet, DNS, Mail, proxy servers, remote access, VPN servers ?
i) should we build our own student subject selections on line to remove the need for paper
2. Manage the 1:1 laptop program, the pedagogy across ALL learning areas, the support, training of teachers, embedding of the elearning in the curriculum
3. Teach let's see, Junior , middle and senior IT. I assume you know how to teach programming with say VB.NET, PHP, Java, C, Games programming with the
4. I could go on but I would need a few hours to list it all
Too big, too unfair, and in the end it defeats the purpose . Students suffer, teacher suffers, and the curriculum cannot be delivered adequately.
Back to the drawing board. Now Mr Bell, tell me how can we make this work ? We need your advice
Look after the young-ns ----- I have 2 at home and know exactly what you mean except it must be harder with the extra one ....:))
Keep well
Kevork Krozian
kevork at edulists.com.au
www.edulists.com.au
Tel: 0419 356 034
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From: Cameron Bell
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Sent: Friday, November 06, 2009 12:44 PM
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In the new revision we tried to place the emphasis on the Coordinator actually Coordinating rather than doing all the doing. Having to "do" it all, I am exhausted.
I have decided to change schools and step back and just go back to classroom teaching rather than continue this leadership role - IMHO you really need someone who doesn't have a life, other interests or a young family to do this role justice with the time allowance given. I really miss not being able to play with the technology in a manner that enhances my teaching. I am too busy administrating, budgeting, teaching others, trying to do justice to my Yr 12 Physics classes and raise 3 young'ns to have the fun I used to. I hope that by returning full time to the classroom I can re-kindle the spark and catch up on actually using developing technologies for teaching rather than just reading about them and hoping someone else will have a play with them.
Cheers
Cameron
FWIW - here is the new version of my (ex) job description.
The Digital Technologies Coordinator will:
. Coordinate the development and implementation of computer technology in the College in accordance with Department of Education and Early Childhood Development and Training guidelines and Council initiatives guidelines
. Develop and review the Computers Across the Curriculum strategy to identify the needs of the College and evaluate future trends and directions
. Coordinate the implementation and integration of the student management system across both curriculum and administration network to provide real-time, online access to: - attendance (Staff and Parent access)
- ongoing curriculum progress (including reports) - behavioural matters - appropriate forms, policies and information pertaining to student management.
. Ensure compliance with DEECD policies and data requirements.
. Coordinate digital communications throughout the school and to our community.
. Demonstrate best practice of the use of digital technologies in the classroom.
. Coordinate professional learning in the use of digital technologies in the
classroom.
. Coordinate professional learning in the use of digital technologies for school
administration and communication.
. Liaise with, and direct the Technical Support Team on the suitable and timely
provision of digital technologies for teaching and learning.
. Oversee the development and revision of appropriate policies for developing and
sustaining digital technologies.
. Work with the Leader of Educational Programs to ensure that curriculum
requirements are being met.
. Liaise with the Principal Team to respond to DEECD initiatives and policies.
. Perform other duties as required by the Principal Team
On 05/11/2009, at 9:59 PM, Kevork Krozian wrote:
Hi Folks,
A cross post from the VET-MM list regarding elearning, what is involved in coordination , work with other curriculum managers and a job description of the position.
As many LT ( Learning managers ) undergo reincarnations into elearning managers in leading teacher positions it would be really helpful for all of us on this list to share and learn from each other. Therefore, any job descriptions, examples of software and hardware implementation into curriculum areas, alignment with VELS and more are all welcome on this list.
To assist us, I have set up a wiki at http://www.edulists.com.au/dokuwiki/embedding_elearning called "Embedding elearning" which has among other things an action plan timeline, and examples of " How elearning is used by Key Learning Area or VELS Level ". Anyone can add to the wiki by registering and editing the wiki immediately.
Looking forward to hearing from the many of the 206 subscribed people on this list at the time of writing.
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Hi Kevork & Litsa,
I just read the last few posts. (thnx for the kind words Litsa!) To help answer some of your Qs, Kevork, it's my 1st year as eLearning Cooordinator @ MSJ (where Litsa is) and I've taken the "stepwise refinement process".
One reason being that it allows for the naturally occuring organic growth of the curriculum to continue to develop along side the evolving technological advances.
To deconstruct and reconstruct courses is difficult enough for teachers, in my opinion, without the added pressure of having to "add" an ICT element. The approach of "adding" ICT to a course also tends to trivialise ICT and cause it to be percieved as a seperate and novel addition to any course, rather than a truly integrated and living organ within the curriculum.
The "stepwise" approach also allows teachers to take ownership of the changes in 'their' course. Ownership of any change to a course is much more permanent than any change that is percieved as forced and laboured.
A major part of my job, as I see it, is to assist in promoting ideas. I help teachers see which technogies may assist them in their particular course. I show them things that might help achieve the goals they already have, that will engage students and save both parties time and I assist the teacher in ther ability and confidence in using that technology.
It isn't easy, independantly:
"To identify new and emerging computer based learning technologies capable of enhancing the quality of the educational program and outcomes for all students in the College ".
...so I don't! :) I do it in consultation with the teacher who is the expert in their area. I give an idea or two, WE try it out with as much support from me as possible, and we refine it wherever needed. When it's successful (and it isn't always) it creates a buzz around that faculty and (fingers crossed!) eventually permiates throughout the school. A few successes and a ripple turns into a wave.
I see this approach as only one key strategy in the process of changing the way teahers have done things for hundreds of years.
Other key strategies/ingredients include:
- loads of promotion of success stories (especially if local)
- keeping staff aware of changes in the culture of the planet (like the stuff that allows me to be typing this out on my iPhone whilst I watch NCIS in my PJ's)
- and the eLearming Coordinator REALLY needs the support of a forward thinking principal and leadership team
- as well as an ICT Dept that supports the trial of new technologies.
We do have a great mix and I'm in an awesome position at MSJ. Most staff members are also very supportive and want to learn.
I hope that helps! :)
Raymond Nashar
eLearning Coordinator
Mount Saint Joseph Girls' College
133 Maidstone Street
Altona, Victoria, Australia 3018
p :: 03 8398 2000
f :: 03 9398 3498
w :: www.msj.vic.edu.au
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Hi Litsa,
It sounds like you have a truly integrated team working very well together rather than pushing the elearning person out the front to do it all. I think that is the key and the balance sounds spot on at your school. It was presumptuous of me to assume otherwise .. sorry ...:))
Thanks again for sharing the job description.
I do have a question about the journey from the inception of the elearning job to the present. Was it necessary to deconstruct and reconstruct the curriculum in each area or was it a stepwise refinement process to move towards the embedding of learning technologies ?
Thanks again
Kevork Krozian
kevork at edulists.com.au
www.edulists.com.au
Tel: 0419 356 034
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What do e-learning coordinators do ?
Hi everyone,
Sorry for any cross posts and being off topic perhaps, but:
My school is creating a new position for an "e-learning coordinator" for next year.
Just out of interest, what do existing e-learning coordinators do in other schools ?
Run the moodle, and school website, organize ICT PD for staff on podcasting, vodcasting, and other things, Review software and technology, formulate strategic plans, team-teach helping teachers out with software and technology, and ??????
Thanks,
Paul Pascoe
St Francis Xavier Co llege Berwick
mppascoe at tpg.com.au
http://passyworldofict.blogspot.com/
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