[elearning] RE: elearning Digest, Vol 29, Issue 6

Thu Mar 19 12:54:59 EST 2009

Thankyou Fran, Paul ad Roland . It seems to me that technically she should get permission (or seek some legal advice)in particular since this is a commercial venture (perhaps the organisers have more info) as she is using the melody unchanged. Particularly if the copyright of the song belongs to an Australian organisation!

Daniela Lupone
eLearning Facilitator
St Columba's College
Essendon 3040
From: Dorgan, Fran [mailto:FDorgan at ceo.melb.catholic.edu.au]
Sent: Wednesday, 18 March 2009 7:48 PM
To: elearning at edulists.com.au
Subject: [elearning] RE: elearning Digest, Vol 29, Issue 6

Hi Daniela,
This extract refers to the use of use of another person's music or song. See the full copyright statement at http://www.copyright.org.au/G012.pdf
Can I write a piece based on someone else's idea?
Ideas are not protected by copyright, so you are free to create a piece based on someone else's idea. However,
you must be careful to ensure that you do not reproduce a "substantial part", that is, an important or distinctive
part, of the way someone else has expressed their idea.
It can be particularly difficult in the context of music to distinguish between an idea and its expression in a
particular work. If your work incorporates elements or melodies of another person's work, you may need to get
permission or specific legal advice.

Kind regards,
Fran Dorgan
Education Officer, eLearning

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Date: Wed, 18 Mar 2009 14:09:05 +1100
From: DANIELA LUPONE <luponed at columba.vic.edu.au>
Subject: [elearning] copryright question
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A question about copyright
A group in the school is doing a video advertisement to enter into a major competition(not one sponsored by education departments). They want to use the tune to the Rio song (Peter Allen) but change the words. Do they need to get the approval from who ever owns the copyright to this. I assume the answer is yes???

Daniela

Daniela Lupone
eLearning Facilitator
St Columba's College
Essendon 3040

Phone: 93319124
Email: luponed at columba.vic.edu.au

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Date: Wed, 18 Mar 2009 14:15:57 +1100
From: Karin Freeman <kfr at luther.vic.edu.au>
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I would assume "yes" too.

From: elearning-bounces at edulists.com.au [mailto:elearning-bounces at edulists.com.au] On Behalf Of DANIELA LUPONE
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Subject: [elearning] copryright question

A question about copyright
A group in the school is doing a video advertisement to enter into a major competition(not one sponsored by education departments). They want to use the tune to the Rio song (Peter Allen) but change the words. Do they need to get the approval from who ever owns the copyright to this. I assume the answer is yes???

Daniela

Daniela Lupone
eLearning Facilitator
St Columba's College
Essendon 3040

Phone: 93319124
Email: luponed at columba.vic.edu.au

P Please consider the environment before printing my email

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Date: Wed, 18 Mar 2009 15:00:22 +1100
From: Roland Gesthuizen <rgesthuizen at gmail.com>
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Oddly enough, under US law if this becomes a parody .. it is permissible under their free speech provisions.

2009/3/18 DANIELA LUPONE <luponed at columba.vic.edu.au>

>  A question about copyright
>
> A group in the school is doing a video advertisement to enter into a
> major competition(not one sponsored by education departments). They
> want to use the tune to the Rio song (Peter Allen) but change the
> words. Do they need to get the approval from who ever owns the
> copyright to this. I assume the answer is yes???
>
>
>
> Daniela
>
>
>
> Daniela Lupone
>
> eLearning Facilitator
>
> St Columba's College
>
> Essendon 3040
>
>
>
> Phone: 93319124
>
> Email: luponed at columba.vic.edu.au
>
>
>
> *P *Please consider the environment before printing my email
>
>
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Hi Daniela,

It's an interesting scenario. Might be worth exploring http://www.smartcopying.edu.au/scw/go/pid/1

If I find out before you, I'll let you know.

Cheers, Paul

*Paul Stewart
Catholic Education Office (eLearning)*

On Wed, Mar 18, 2009 at 2:09 PM, DANIELA LUPONE
<luponed at columba.vic.edu.au>wrote:

>  A question about copyright
>
> A group in the school is doing a video advertisement to enter into a
> major competition(not one sponsored by education departments). They
> want to use the tune to the Rio song (Peter Allen) but change the
> words. Do they need to get the approval from who ever owns the
> copyright to this. I assume the answer is yes???
>
>
>
> Daniela
>
>
>
> Daniela Lupone
>
> eLearning Facilitator
>
> St Columba's College
>
> Essendon 3040
>
>
>
> Phone: 93319124
>
> Email: luponed at columba.vic.edu.au
>
>
>
> *P *Please consider the environment before printing my email
>
>
>  _______________________________________________
>  http://www.edulists.com.au - FAQ, resources, subscribe, unsubscribe
> eLearning Mailing List kindly supported by  http://www.vcaa.vic.edu.au
> - Victorian Curriculum and Assessment Authority and
>  http://www.vitta.org.au - VITTA Victorian Information Technology Teachers
> Association Inc
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