[elearning] 1:1 which way do we go?

Mon Aug 17 11:07:12 EST 2009

Agree wholeheartedly with that approach and we will be looking at  
doing that here- although we will still get dedicated desktops for  
graphics work.  My other concern was the scenario where although you  
recommend a particular package (say Photoshop as the classic example),  
you get a family(ies) who decide that they already have a legal copy  
of another app (Paint) or decide the money could be better spent and  
go Gimp, the teacher would have conniptions trying to sort out all the  
variations of how to achieve a particular task. As a parent, I would  
not fork out for software for my kids given I (and they) know what can  
be done with FLOSS.
I would see it as an opportunity, IMHO we are not here to teach  
particular packages, but use the packages to achieve what you want to  
teach and finding out about all the different packages is fun (for  
me), but not everyone shares my view....
Admittedly when it comes to most software these days you could spend a  
lifetime specialising in one app and still not be familiar with all  
it's features (most of which are so far beyond what kids need  
anyway...) and it can be wasted time trying to figure more than one  
app. Personally I would simply say we use FLOSS and that's that, but  
(blah blah, industry standard, blah blah, I can only use MSOffice,  
blah blah, we don't support that, blah blah, DEECD agreement...)
Cheers
Cameron

On 17/08/2009, at 10:44 AM, Kevork Krozian wrote:

> Hi Folks,
>
> There is also the issue of software licenses. If students buy/lease  
> their own devices without the benefit of school site licenses they -  
> or someone - then has to spend a fortune to get the software legally  
> onto the student netbooks.
> It seems to me the best option for schools is/are:
>   1. Consider a slightly higher quality standard device like a  
> Lenovo S10e so it could be a standard for all year levels as well as  
> handle higher demand apps as well as good level graphics capability  
> screen
>   2. Purchase netbooks and load software under the site license  
> arrangement
>   3. Lease these to students over a 2-3 year term taking into  
> account maintenance , servicing , reimaging and warranty facilitation.
>   4. According to available advice there is scope with this  
> arrangement for parents to claim the $750 per year Educational Tax  
> Refund ( total of $1500 for 2 years ) . See http://www.ato.gov.au/print.asp?doc=/content/00174278.htm
>
>  As for the Rudd money specifically, I am not sure if there is any  
> impediment for schools to use some of these funds to help setup the  
> above program. Perhaps others can comment on that aspect.
>
> Take Care
>
>
>
> Kevork Krozian
> Digital Learning Manager
> Forest Hill College
> k.krozian at fhc.vic.edu.au
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> But it seems you can lease the netbooks (purchased with Rudd funds) to
> students?
>
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> [mailto:elearning-bounces at edulists.com.au] On Behalf Of Mark Kelly
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> You can't lease with Rudd money  :-(
>
> Arnott, Suzanne S wrote:
>> Hi all,
>> I guess this is one way to get some feedback on how everyone is  
>> travelling
> with decisions needing to be made about how we will most effectively  
> use the
> Rudd money to fund our projected 1:1 in the not too distant future.
>>
>> Currently my school has some netbooks, but we don't see them being  
>> the
> tool for the job for many subjects. We are at the start of our  
> journey,
> having to really boost our network infrastructure before we can even  
> begin
> to think about getting any extra units, as the system is fairly  
> fragile at
> the moment.
>>
>> We haven't explored the leasing options, and would be interested to  
>> know
> how this fits in with the funding model?
>>
>> How are others structuring/restructuring their plans now we are  
>> having to
> rejig to be 1:1 rather than 1:2?
>>
>> Hints tips thoughts and ideas would be welcomed
>>
>> cheers
>> Suz
>>
>>
>>
>> Suzanne Arnott
>> eLearning Leader
>> Sandringham College
>> Holloway Rd
>> Sandringham, 3191
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
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