[elearning] Acer Aspire One - Rudd money

Mon Sep 8 17:39:14 EST 2008

Golly, can the price fall lower for ultraportable computers? Probably yes!
This $98 Chinese laptop looks very interesting .. any cheaper and they will
be giving them away with USB keys :-)
     http://techvideoblog.com/ifa/98-linux-laptop-the-hivision-mininote/

Don't get me wrong .. I am not judging these as 'school ready' .. just
amazed to watch the ongoing development. You can just see to the right hand
side part of an OLPC that it is being compared with. We live in interesting
times.

Regards Roland

2008/9/7 Roland Gesthuizen <rgesthuizen at gmail.com>

> Wow, infinite funding. The mind boggles at the prospect of a blank cheque
> for any organisation.
>
> Interesting observation Ken although if you discount the price of the OS,
> the machine is still far too cheap.
>
> We had a good laugh on another list about the future of this per-device
> contract .. consideration was given to licences on potential devices such as
> virtual machines, licences on ultra-small devices such as portables, usb
> keys and licences on devices that would never run another OS such as a linux
> proxy server such as EduPASS. In the end, it would make more sense to do an
> audit and licence what has been used, not just the potential of a device to
> run the OS.
>
> Perhaps this will go the way of the milk that I was once mandated to drink
> each day at school, pyramids of goodness that had been warmed in the sun and
> found a ready target at the school incinerator.
>
> Say, did you spot the interesting typo in the press release? The department
> will deploy with the CASES rollout both Vista 2008 and "Sever 2008" .. ouch!
>
> Regards Roland
>
> 2008/9/6 ken price <kenjprice at gmail.com>
>
> Could it be that the Windows cost has been paid centrally in your State?
>>
>> "The $23 million three year deal covers Microsoft product licensing
>> for 164,000 devices and accompanies a hardware refresh that begins in
>> 2008."
>> http://www.computerworld.com.au/index.php/id;1582266183
>>
>> Alternatively - I'm not sure what happens in Vic, but some states have
>> an annual per-device payment that schools pay. Over three years this
>> may well change the overall total cost of the two versions.
>>
>> I'd be a bit surprised however if the central contract was to cover an
>> infinite number of devices - the Rudd initiative would, one assumes,
>> have increased the number of computers by an amount that may not have
>> been known at the time of contract negotiation.
>>
>> kp
>>
>>
>> On Sat, Sep 6, 2008 at 12:21 AM, Roland Gesthuizen
>> <rgesthuizen at gmail.com> wrote:
>> > Mark is right, this is very odd pricing. The ACER Aspire one WIndows XP
>> > version is priced at least $150 more on some of the overseas websites I
>> > checked. The hardware is diffent but not remarkably so. From what I
>> could
>> > see, the CPU's are similar except the linux version comes with a more
>> robust
>> > 8Gb flash memory drive with no moving parts and 512MB of RAM, the
>> Windows
>> > version comes with 1Gb of RAM.
>> >
>> http://www.cnet.com.au/laptops/laptops/0,239035649,339290036,00.htm
>> >
>> > If WIndows XP costs $250, does this make the laptops only $60? Whilst
>> users
>> > can still purchase a copy of WIndows XP from Harris Technology, perhaps
>> Mark
>> > is right to spot a goldmine for Windows XP licence purchases. Something
>> > doesnt sit right and I am suspictious of what might be going on.
>> >      http://tinyurl.com/5m8xj8 (Buy XP at HP)
>> >
>> > I would hate to point the bone but if a seller is pricing the different
>> > units much higher than is reasonable or fair (price gouging) or if they
>> are
>> > selling a product at very low price with the intent of driving
>> competitors
>> > out of the market or to create a barrier to entry for new competitors
>> > (predatory pricing) then what they are doing is probably quite illegal
>> under
>> > anti-trust laws.
>> >       http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Price_gouging
>> >       http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Predatory_pricing
>> >
>> > "He who pays the piper can call the tune". In any case, users can pick
>> the
>> > cheaper laptop and still pick their own operating system, golly they can
>> > even downgrade fr. Good competition drives prices down, not market
>> > manipulation by an oligopolistic industry. We already have Linux running
>> on
>> > our OLPC, eeePCs and library terminals. Not a big deal, it works.
>> >
>> > Regards Roland
>> >
>> > 2008/9/5 Donna Benjamin <donna at cc.com.au>
>> >>
>> >> On Fri, 2008-09-05 at 14:06 +1000, Mark Kelly wrote:
>> >> > I trust discussion of Rudd money is at least partially relevant to
>> your
>> >> > eLearning plan, especially planning your implementation strategies.
>> >> >
>> >> > The panel UMPC from Acer is a cute thing - and cheap. You get lots of
>> >> > change from your Rudd $1000.
>> >> >
>> >> > We got one to play with and see whether it can stand running Win
>> Vista -
>> >> > our standard platform in 2009.
>> >> >
>> >> > 6 hour battery life!  Not bad...
>> >> >
>> >> > Anyway, the interesting thing is the pricing:
>> >> > $313 ex with Windows XP.
>> >> > $469 ex with Linux.
>> >>
>> >> Ermmmm... are the specs on the machines the same?
>> >>
>> >> > Now isn't that really interesting - Linux is free, and Windows costs
>> >> > negative $156 dollars!
>> >> >
>> >> > I'm gonna buy 10,000 copies of Windows and make a fortune...
>> >>
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