[Design and Technology] destech Digest, Vol 183, Issue 109
Peter Murphy
plmurphy78 at gmail.com
Thu Aug 20 00:56:51 UTC 2020
Hi all,
First of all I hope you are all well and managing to get through a very
difficult situation, exacerbated by the late and vague advice from
VCAA/DET.
However, I do appreciate that finally some subject specific advice was
published on the VCAA website late on Tuesday night. (pasted below if you
couldn't find it on the VCAA website).
https://www.vcaa.vic.edu.au/news-and-events/latest-news/Novel%20coronavirus%20update/Pages/SchoolsandEducators.aspx
In relation to Product Design and Technology I welcome that it states the
SAT "may not necessarily be completion of a product". As my school, like
many others, was additionally closed for positive cases (twice in our case)
a product was never going to be possible, which I communicated to VCAA at
the time.
I also appreciate the advice that "Products must not be completed at home"
which I know some schools were attempting with the best of intentions, but
it is not a safe or equitable option in my opinion.
Most of us knew that the practical element of this SAT was going to be
affected even when the first round of school closures took place in Term 2.
How often have we had to work at weekends and during holidays with students
to help them complete products even during a normal year?
My principal is supportive of us not returning to school to attempt to make
a product and has contacted VCAA to explain the reasons why and asking for
an urgent review of this particular SAT, but I appreciate this may not be
the case in every school. Perhaps your principals could make a similar
request on your behalf too?
I don't teach Systems Engineering and it is not yet offered at my school
sadly, so I'll let others speak to that situation.
The difficulty here is what others have pointed out, that using the current
PD&T SAT criteria and the associated indicators is not possible in the
current remote context. Attempts to do so are causing a great deal of
stress and possibly endangering teachers and students.
My students will only be completing detailed CAD models (of every
component) of their products that they will use in a detailed storyboard of
how the product would be assembled if possible. These could potentially be
3D printed at some stage but I am not concerned about whether we
achieve that or not as I suspect we will be in lockdown longer than
anticipated. The focus is now on SACs and exam prep and criteria 1-5. I
agree with others that Criteria 6-9 should be removed or at least made
optional.
I welcome all of the voices on this mailing list and I'd like to thank
DATTA Vic who actually pay for this facility so that teachers can connect
with each other to express their concerns and support each other. But it is
not an official communication tool to VCAA. So if you have concerns and
need answers to questions you must contact VCAA directly. There are contact
details on DATTA Vic Covid-19 Crisis help page.
https://www.datta.vic.edu.au/content/help-teaching-dt-during-covid-19-crisis
You can also read the letter that DATTA Vic president Travis Burroughs sent
to VCAA at the start of stage 4 restrictions. (3/8/20)
https://www.datta.vic.edu.au/sites/default/files/DATTA%20Vic%20letter%20to%20VCAA%203rd%20Aug%202020.pdf
I'd encourage you all to make things as safe and easy for yourselves and
your students as possible. Let's get everyone through this with empathy and
responsible actions.
It would be greatly appreciated if VCAA could model this approach by
directly addressing the concerns raised, even at this late stage.
Stay safe!
Advice on VCAA website for Product Design and Technology
All nine criteria from the Revised ‘VCE Product Design and Technology:
Administrative information for School-based Assessment in 2020’ will be
used to assess student work for the School-assessed Task. However, not all
indicators listed for each criterion may be used. Therefore, teachers can
use some or all indicators listed for each criterion to form a judgement
about student work, which may not necessarily be completion of a product.
Products must not be completed at home without appropriate supervision and
competency tests for use of tools and machines (refer to the Department of
Education and Training’s Use of Machinery in Technology Teaching webpage
<https://www.education.vic.gov.au/hrweb/safetyhw/Pages/technology.aspx>).
*Peter Murphy*
Leading Teacher - STEM
Northcote High School
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*President*
*Design and Technology Teachers' Association Australia*
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> Again, thank you all.
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> From: David Pitt <dpitt at huntingtower.vic.edu.au>
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> Cc: Victorian Curriculum and Assessment Authority
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> Subject: Re: [Design and Technology] The future of VCE Product Design
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> Well put.
>
> >From the outset, VCAA guidance was vague, incomplete, pending, or
> outright incompatible with the nature of the assessment indicators as they
> could be applied – even disregarding the enormous discrepancy in available
> access we will see across school settings.
>
> I also echo your dismay at the core element of the response that the SAT
> serves only to rank your students. We know already that the VCE is a
> simply a tool for creating easily applied university entry processes, but
> If a ranking is all that is required and not any significant investment in
> the student’s whole pathway and learning experience, then surely certain
> indicators could be waived and still provide a perfectly serviceable
> ranking.
>
> I know we want more for our students, more for them to take away at the
> end than a score, but this has not been considered the focus at all in the
> advice given – it has been nothing but administrative. This, despite the
> significant health, wellbeing (both mental and physical, and both teacher
> and student) and timeline benefits for the subject in making realistic
> modifications, particularly considering the heavy impact of isolation on a
> practical SAT task so heavily dependant on equipment and adequate
> supervision.
>
> Wholeheartedly disappointed.
>
> David Pitt Head of Department – Design Technology.
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> Subject: [Design and Technology] The future of VCE Product Design &
> Technology - Help needed
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> Dear all
>
> In the absence of a response from my latest email to the VCAA, I feel
> disheartened by the lack of support and leadership being displayed. The
> response from the VCAA, given to a number of colleagues on this forum has
> been identical in its wording displaying a corporate response to a
> widespread concern without actually addressing the pressing concerns or
> questions being posed.
>
> I am sure that there are a number of staff that would relish the idea of
> heading back in for face to face classes in an attempt to move the
> practical element along which is admirable and typical of the dedication
> and commitment that we have as a body of professionals. However, not every
> school finds itself in the same position for a myriad of reasons. Many
> Datta Vic members have openly expressed their concern and dismay. Many have
> presented possible solutions to try and create some form of assessment to
> the practical component and its relevant criteria. Staff have also been
> gracious with their time to direct fellow colleagues to the often hard to
> find updates and directions from the VCAA which in itself is time consuming
> and with its own challenges.
>
> What we are left with is a deafening silence from our only curriculum
> assessment body that in a time of crisis, has failed to give support and
> timely guidance to its members, when it was most needed. It’s response has
> left me dumfounded in that their approach to assessment in only about
> ranking and nothing to do with one of the major drivers of education,
> learning.
>
> Unfortunately, I see no resolution to this current predicament that takes
> into consideration the concerns of all Victorian schools, students and
> staff. The response to assessment from the VCAA has made a mockery of its
> purpose and intent, leaving questions around the authenticity of
> assessment, audits and governance. It has also highlighted a lack of
> understanding of our curriculum.
>
> Elizabeth, Dean and many others have been champions in attempting to seek
> reason and equity for all schools, and whether or not you are in agreement,
> the need for equity across all schools is desperately needed now more than
> ever.
>
> If all schools could show their support, even if you are in a position to
> meet the assessment criteria in some shape or form, then perhaps the VCAA
> will recognise at the bare minimum, consider the need to discuss a solution
> that is equitable for all and one that doesn’t undermine the integrity of
> our subject.
>
> Please show your support by posting on the forum if you have a moment to
> spare.
>
> Keep safe and good luck.
>
> Warm regards
>
> Stuart
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> From: Felicity McNamara <Felicity.McNamara at carey.com.au>
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> Thanks to everyone for sharing your concerns to this forum.
> In some ways it is good to see that others feel the same way I do. But
> also distressing to read how difficult this is for us all and our students
> and primarily how inequitable this will all be in the end for some student.
>
> At this stage my school had approved for me to come in once a week for an
> afternoon with my students to complete some prac work over the next 4
> weeks. They will attempt some type of modified product. I am lucky that all
> of my students are relatively close to the school and can manage to get in,
> and that we have the materials available. I know not all schools are in
> this position. So, while I am very disappointed that this is how the
> assessment had to happen, I don’t know what other choice I have. The VCAA
> has now told us we need to assess all of the criteria in some way even if
> it is only some of the indicators.
>
> My points that I am worried about are:
>
> 1. School with children who live far away or schools that cannot open
> because of Covid outbreaks and so cannot complete this work- so how do they
> rank the students in these criteria. Some schools in the west of Melbourne
> surely won’t be able to have students come onto the campus as numbers of
> Covid are still so high in their areas. It is not fair on staff or students
> to be put in that position. And students who go to boarding school- how can
> we presume that can do any production work? So, in thinking about them how
> on earth are any of these rankings across schools even. Different
> schools/students will have completed very different actual amounts of work.
> 2. I am spending time completing all of this folio and production work
> now- much later than expected and so am not starting exam revision with my
> student until much later. Will this now disadvantage my students in the
> exam- which will ultimately rank them across the state?
> 3. I have concerns about the student’s mental health. I have such a
> great group of kids who are already so disappointed with their final year
> of school.
> 4. How can we be safe coming into school- shared equipment etc. We will
> of course follow all protocols but as we have seen this does not always
> work. So, across schools it is the PD&T teachers being put at risk, while
> other subjects have modified curriculum and staff are not having to make a
> choice about risk like PD&T teachers are.
> 5. I’m too busy, stressed and short of time now to fight the VCAA about
> any of this anymore. I have to just get on with it and hope for the best
> (does not seen like the way it should be does it?)
>
> Best of luck to you all. I feel for all of you and echo all of your
> sentiments. At least we all know we feel the same way.
>
> I am thinking of you all.
>
> Stay safe.
>
> Felicity McNamara,
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> Subject: Re: [Design and Technology] The future of VCE Product Design &
> Technology - Help needed
>
> Well put.
>
> From the outset, VCAA guidance was vague, incomplete, pending, or outright
> incompatible with the nature of the assessment indicators as they could be
> applied – even disregarding the enormous discrepancy in available access we
> will see across school settings.
>
> I also echo your dismay at the core element of the response that the SAT
> serves only to rank your students. We know already that the VCE is a
> simply a tool for creating easily applied university entry processes, but
> If a ranking is all that is required and not any significant investment in
> the student’s whole pathway and learning experience, then surely certain
> indicators could be waived and still provide a perfectly serviceable
> ranking.
>
> I know we want more for our students, more for them to take away at the
> end than a score, but this has not been considered the focus at all in the
> advice given – it has been nothing but administrative. This, despite the
> significant health, wellbeing (both mental and physical, and both teacher
> and student) and timeline benefits for the subject in making realistic
> modifications, particularly considering the heavy impact of isolation on a
> practical SAT task so heavily dependant on equipment and adequate
> supervision.
>
> Wholeheartedly disappointed.
>
> David Pitt Head of Department – Design Technology.
> [mail_sig]
>
> T +61 3 9807 8888
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> Stuart
> Sent: Thursday, 20 August 2020 8:47 AM
> To: destech at edulists.com.au
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> seabury.justin.s at edumail.vic.gov.au; o’neill.geoffrey.m at edumail.vic.gov.au
> <o?neill.geoffrey.m at edumail.vic.gov.au>;
> douglass.robyn.f at edumail.vic.gov.au
> Subject: [Design and Technology] The future of VCE Product Design &
> Technology - Help needed
>
> Dear all
>
> In the absence of a response from my latest email to the VCAA, I feel
> disheartened by the lack of support and leadership being displayed. The
> response from the VCAA, given to a number of colleagues on this forum has
> been identical in its wording displaying a corporate response to a
> widespread concern without actually addressing the pressing concerns or
> questions being posed.
>
> I am sure that there are a number of staff that would relish the idea of
> heading back in for face to face classes in an attempt to move the
> practical element along which is admirable and typical of the dedication
> and commitment that we have as a body of professionals. However, not every
> school finds itself in the same position for a myriad of reasons. Many
> Datta Vic members have openly expressed their concern and dismay. Many have
> presented possible solutions to try and create some form of assessment to
> the practical component and its relevant criteria. Staff have also been
> gracious with their time to direct fellow colleagues to the often hard to
> find updates and directions from the VCAA which in itself is time consuming
> and with its own challenges.
>
> What we are left with is a deafening silence from our only curriculum
> assessment body that in a time of crisis, has failed to give support and
> timely guidance to its members, when it was most needed. It’s response has
> left me dumfounded in that their approach to assessment in only about
> ranking and nothing to do with one of the major drivers of education,
> learning.
>
> Unfortunately, I see no resolution to this current predicament that takes
> into consideration the concerns of all Victorian schools, students and
> staff. The response to assessment from the VCAA has made a mockery of its
> purpose and intent, leaving questions around the authenticity of
> assessment, audits and governance. It has also highlighted a lack of
> understanding of our curriculum.
>
> Elizabeth, Dean and many others have been champions in attempting to seek
> reason and equity for all schools, and whether or not you are in agreement,
> the need for equity across all schools is desperately needed now more than
> ever.
>
> If all schools could show their support, even if you are in a position to
> meet the assessment criteria in some shape or form, then perhaps the VCAA
> will recognise at the bare minimum, consider the need to discuss a solution
> that is equitable for all and one that doesn’t undermine the integrity of
> our subject.
>
> Please show your support by posting on the forum if you have a moment to
> spare.
>
> Keep safe and good luck.
>
> Warm regards
>
> Stuart
>
>
>
>
>
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