[Design and Technology] [SUSPICIOUS MESSAGE] Re: destech Digest, Vol 183, Issue 63
Lambert Dean
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Mon Aug 17 03:25:15 UTC 2020
Good points raised Peter – I concur with what has been said.
There still needs further clarity because equality across all schools and OHS is still a huge concern within the timeframe and physical distancing.
Where does that leave us if some schools / principals allow for staff / students to return, whilst others don’t?
I very generic letter.
that’s my view anyway!!
Lets keep the conversations happening
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Hi all,
The letter from VCAA today states that all VCE SAT work is to be completed at school during stage 4 restrictions.
There is no specific advice on each subject and I suggest we all seek clarity directly from VCAA and DET.
There are many issues specific to VCE PD&T that may not be a concern in other subjects. Please consider these and discuss with your school before deciding on your course of action. I'd suggest you also contact the relevant people at VCAA and DET with your concerns
* Students and teachers (and their families) will be at greater risk because of unchanged PD&T SAT requirements
* Some families may not wish to put their children at risk by attending school
* At least 10 weeks worth of practical work is now being reduced to 4 or 5 weeks - not possible for most schools
* There is no way to ensure required physical distancing between students and teachers during practical work required in PD&T
* VCE students have never faced so much disruption before and this advice sets an unrealistic expectation for PD&T students
* The ability to acquire required materials and components is not possible in stage 4 restrictions
* Students are otherwise required to work remotely and will have to travel to and from school most days of the week to complete this work. This is not practical if they attend school for PD&T class and have to get home in time for their next class
The VCAA letter also states that "Advice in this letter will be published on the VCAA website and may be refined as required."
I'd suggest that the advice needs to be refined in relation to prolonged practical work expected in SATs such as PD&T
Contact details available on DATTA Vic
https://www.datta.vic.edu.au/content/vcaa-updates<https://www.datta.vic.edu.au/content/vcaa-updates>
Please also reference the advice DATTA Vic provided to VCAA 2 weeks ago
https://www.datta.vic.edu.au/sites/default/files/DATTA%20Vic%20letter%20to%20VCAA%203rd%20Aug%202020.pdf<https://www.datta.vic.edu.au/sites/default/files/DATTA%20Vic%20letter%20to%20VCAA%203rd%20Aug%202020.pdf>
I hope that we can ensure that the physical and mental health of our students and teachers is a priority over unaltered VCE requirements.
Good luck!
Peter
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I agree Katrina- I am now already trying to negotiate this with leaders in the school.
There is no way for my students to complete their work remotely so surely they fall into that category. I’m sure we are all now going to have to convince our schools!
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To me it reads that students will be able to come in and do their SAT as it is an essential assessment!
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Subject: Re: [Design and Technology] News on VCE assessment
Hi Laura
Here it is.
I would be interested in other schools views. This is going to put considerable pressure, stress and complications on staff, students and parents.
Thoughts?
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Subject: [Design and Technology] News on VCE assessment
Hi everyone, just a quick note to let you know that there is a letter being sent to Principals today with the latest guidance from the DET on on-site assessments. As soon as we have it, we'll share it via our mailing list. Good luck everyone, L x
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Subject: Re: [Design and Technology] Criteria 6-9
Dear Maryann, thankyou for passing your message on to us.
Sometimes I think that I should have retired last year when I was going to after teaching – then Woodwork - DT -Materials and Technology – Technological Design and Development and now Product Design and Technology for over 30 years, but to use a C-19 phrase (were all in this together) Its just a pity that the VCAA don’t share the same in at least giving something to all the Passionate Design teachers we have and our Teachers Association DATTA vic who always support us.
Take care all
Rob
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Subject: [Design and Technology] Criteria 6-9
MY VCE CO ORDINATOR SENT ME THIS -
I spoke to the VCAA Design and Tech curriculum manager, Leanne Compton, in regards to the concerns you raised about VCE Product Design and she had some useful advice.
Firstly she wanted to reassure us that it's ok if students do not finish their products. SATs can be modified by only assessing the indicators under each of the criteria that don't involve/require prac. She gave the example for criteria 8, where teachers would assess students on indicator 2 only instead of 1,2 and 3. VCAA trust that teachers will still be able to accurately rank their students so long as the school-based assessment is consistent.
VCAA will be sending out advice to teachers shortly and are also planning to set up some webinars. I'll let you know if I hear more details around this. One thing to note is that VCAA will not be making any further changes to U4.
Leanne also mentioned that some schools are asking their student to create physical prototypes out of cardboard. This could be something worth exploring for the woodwork students. Have we investigated sending out sewing machines/resource packs to students? This, of course, would have to be done in a way that is equitable to all student in the cohort.
Please let me know if there is anything else I can do to support you.
I also encourage you to contact Leanne. She was really generous with her time on the phone and easy to get a hold of. Her number is: 03 9032 1698.
Warm regards,
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