[Design and Technology] lending machines

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Hi Kirsty
That is exactly correct.
Another point is that even though students take a machine home they will not be able to complete the product to a high standard without teacher supervision and guidance.
My students have completed their calico toile or mock up and were ready to start their final.
With the final product it requires more complex processes which they need help with.
I am sure we will get some answers soon from the VCAA.
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Liz Italiano

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Dear Gabriella,
I have had the same questions and am not comfortable to lend out sewing machines for all of the reasons that you identified. I think it is important to try to approach this from a 'fairness to all' lens and, hope that common sense will prevail and some significant changes to Unit 4 are made by VCAA. The longer this takes, the more stressful this is for our students (not to mention teaching staff) and with face to face teaching coming to an end, it is hard not being able to reassure our students.
Patience is a virtue.
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1. Re: destech Digest, Vol 183, Issue 14 (Gabriella Verstraeten)

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Hi all,
One of my yr 12 students asked me yesterday about the possibility of taking a sewing machine home as a possible solution. I said to her while not a bad idea, it wasn’t that straight forward. As the wood tech students could hardly take home the equipment they need and therefore that’s not equitable. The opportunities have to be the same for all students across the state, not all students may be able to borrow equipment. I mentioned the cost of the machines, the liability if the machine is damaged at home, the safety risks, the supervision. It has to be fair for all.
I’m sure there will be some advice shortly from VCAA.
Agility and flexibility are the words for this year’s learning.
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Its a worry
Some schools with more money than mine are allowing textiles students to take home machines but then it puts other students who dont have access at a huge disadvantage. My students who have just cut most of their pieces for their furniture product are unable to do any more! I can only see two scenarios happening. Cutting down the criteria or allowing limited access for PD students. The second is unlikely due to the ongoing pandemic and introduction of stage 4.
I hope they release information for us today.

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1. Re: Year 12 moving forward (Paul Gorman)

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..onsite operations, that is.

Paul Gorman Product Design TeacherSt Monica's College, Epping

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So, at present, onsite prac is 100% off the table. If VCAA moves on that, then it’d be permissible to travel to accommodate work.

At the moment though, admin, facilities, operations and maintenance, and supervising staff for essential workers are really the only people have reason to continue to be on-site from the advice given so far. Note the term “supervise” not “teach”. It can be anyone with a WWCC at this point, and in many school contexts probably will be, and the emphasis isn’t on educating but on maintaining a safe environment while they undertake flexible work.

At the moment, we are stuck.

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Subject: Re: [Design and Technology] Year 12 moving forward

Yes but haven’t we been told that “all students are to move to remote learning and schools are to remain open for vulnerable children and children of permitted workers.”

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Subject: Re: [Design and Technology] Year 12 moving forward

It would not be.

Travelling for work purposes, where that work cannot be completed remotely, is completely within the rules and hasno limitations on distance. However you would need to have a permit stating the need for the work to be conducted at school (direct supervision of practical activities), and your school would need to corroborate and control that – as would the DHHS and VCAA and DEECD, which I don’t see happening yet, or maybe at all.

In the end though, travel for work is exempt, but only for essential work that cannot be conducted from home. It’s not illegal to drive to school.

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Subject: Re: [Design and Technology] Year 12 moving forward

Hi Craig,

Yes this would be a breach of the rules and against the Victorian law I think. I cant imagine this happening.

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Subject: Re: [Design and Technology] Year 12 moving forward

Hi all

If you intend coming into school during the stage 4 lockdown period to do practical work with year 12s. I hope you live 5km from your work and your students do as well? Otherwise big fines may apply.

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Subject: Re: [Design and Technology] Year 12 moving forward

Hi Liz, it’s hard to see how the coming weeks will plan out. Maybe yr 12 students doing prac subjects as ours will be allowed to go in for an afternoon once a week for production. Who knows at this stage. I know that most of my students don’t have sewing machines etc at home so production will come to a halt. Just as we were getting in to it! So this week and next its writing up about tools and equipment, risk assessment tables and SAC no. 3. As for yr 11 ……………………………….

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Subject: [Design and Technology] Year 12 moving forward

Hi All,

Those teaching Year 11 and 12 will no doubt be as depressed as I am with todays news. It took VCAA several weeks to come up with a solution to the last lockdown. Is anyone foreseeing what might happen with this scenario?

Mr Year 11’s are also compromised as I did both Unit 1 and 2 folios first semester and presently working on Unit 2 production atm.

It’s a nightmare. Poor kids, I feel for them all.

Take care,

Liz

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