[Design and Technology] class numbers

steven.donaldson steven.donaldson steven.donaldson at bigpond.com
Sun Dec 4 19:20:21 AEDT 2016


Hi all,


Not sure how relevant this is,,


All technology classes at my school have been capped at 20..  If 
required to go beyond that number then it is with negotiation with the 
teacher. However, the Food Tech and Textiles are strictly capped due to 
space considerations and the number of stoves and sewing machines.  The 
Design-Fabrication classes are capped at 18 due to high risk 
activities.. Robotics-20..    The only space that can be negotiated in 
senior wood,, but again 20.. 


It is in the interest of the principal and teachers involved that 
classes and activities are monitored based on the risk assessment and 
the expected portable power tool and machine plant usage.. The available 
space to work with,,  Remembering there are advised minimum distances 
between work stations..   any common walkways, benches, fixed plant are 
not to be included in the workspace calculations etc..


I unfortunately have had a bad experiences with a student injury and the 
subsequent fall out afterwards..  Safety in the workshop is not to be 
treated lightly and principal's and those responsible for the allocation 
of class sizes must be educated on these risks..


We still operate traditional equipment including new modern equipment..  
How else can products be made with out the planning and thinking skills 
combined with the safe training of various tools and equipment in 
workshops..  I am confident that students who pass through my welding 
workshop can safely use one at home if they chose to do so later in 
life..


Worksafe Vic have also indicated if you do any OHS training during a 
start up program (Head start, etc.) , make sure the assessment is in the 
following year..
We have had some issues with Worksafe,, brand new workshops, poorly 
designed,, blind spots every where..  However, they did indicate that 
any OHS training and assessment must be completed in the year they plan 
to use machines and power tools..  A refresher is required each year 
after that.


Apologies for the long string,, but this issue is one I must speak up 
about..


Regards
Steve Donaldson
Technology Manager & VET Coordinator
Crusoe College
Kangaroo Flat.

------ Original Message ------
From: "julie armstrong" <self.delicacy at gmail.com>
To: "Design and Technology Teachers' Mailing List" 
<destech at edulists.com.au>
Sent: Sunday, 4 Dec, 2016 At 12:26 PM
Subject: Re: [Design and Technology] class numbers

Thank you for your positive response. I am using these head start weeks 
and a few weeks next year to go through OH&S although I am still 
concerned about the class size and not seeing what everyone is doing

Julie


On 4 December 2016 at 08:25, Kaylen Kornberg <KNK at mentonegrammar.net 
<mailto:KNK at mentonegrammar.net> > wrote:
     

That's a wise move for your first year of teaching this. I've taught it 
for over 25 yrs but with OH&S rules and schools just getting bigger it's 
getting harder to keep practical and hands on subjects going. That 
sounds like a great project. Good luck with  it. 

  Kaylen Kornberg
Acting Finlay Anderson House Coordinator

Technology Teacher



Mentone Grammar

63 Venice Street, Mentone

Victoria, Australia 3194

Tel: +61 (03) 9584 4211

Dir: +61 (03) 9581 3234

Email: knk at mentonegrammar.net <mailto:knk at mentonegrammar.net>





  On 4 Dec 2016, at 8:05 AM, julie armstrong <self.delicacy at gmail.com 
<mailto:self.delicacy at gmail.com> > wrote:



Hi all


I am teaching woodwork for the first time this year and have 3 classes 
of 26 students. Basically I have made a no power tool rule at least for 
first term until I get to know the kids and they get to know me. We are 
doing a reclaimed item they must bring  from home that we can repair, 
reuse and make it an item they or someone will use



Julie 

  On Sunday, 4 December 2016, Kaylen Kornberg <KNK at mentonegrammar.net 
<mailto:KNK at mentonegrammar.net> > wrote:


Wow. How on earth do you cope with that number? What projects do you do 
to make It easier to supervise them all?




  On 3 Dec 2016, at 7:49 pm, Paul Haydock <docca1 at hotmail.com> wrote:




Hi kaylen, 

We have year 7 & 8 classes that usually reach 25, 26 or 27 students. 
Year 9 at 22 and year 10-12 capped at 20 students. 


Sent from my iPhone


  On 29 Nov. 2016, at 3:59 pm, Craig Watson 
<C.Watson at kardinia.vic.edu.au> wrote:





Hi Kaylen,
Here is some information I received last year over a similar question I 
had. Hope it is helpful. Craig.
 
 
 
Class Size
The Victorian Government Schools Agreement (2013) has the following 
information in relation to class sizes.
1.    The principal, as the Employer’s representative, will use the 
consultation provisions of this agreement when considering the class 
sizes in a school.
2.    It is recognised that there are varied forms of teaching 
arrangements (including practical classes, team teaching and lecture 
tutorials) and different structural options,  (including P-12 
arrangements, senior school arrangements and senior campuses) that 
optimise student learning opportunities. In addition, the organisation 
of teaching should provide and maintain, so far as is practicable, a 
working environment that is safe  and without risks to health.
3.    In this context, and within the fixed resources provided to 
schools and the physical facilities schedule, class size should be 
planned on the minimum possible. Provided that  class sizes should be 
planned generally on the following basis:
a.    P to 6 - an average of 26 provided that the average class size of 
21 at P-2 is maintained;
b.    7 to 12 – groups of up to 25 students.
Practical class sizes
    1.   

c.    Schools are required to provide and maintain, so far as is 
practicable, a working environment that is safe and without risks to 
health.
d.    Schools should plan for the minimum practical class sizes possible 
given available resources. Practical class sizes should be determined 
having regard to the nature of the  activities, the nature of the 
equipment used, the maturity and competence of the students and the 
capabilities of the teacher to provide expert supervision.
e.    A practical class includes a subject or course where the use of 
equipment and/or material of a potentially dangerous nature is involved 
and/or a class in which students are  undertaking manual or other tasks 
requiring greater individual supervision of the classroom activity.
As such, it is up to the principal to determine appropriate class sizes 
with consideration to nature of the activities, the nature of the 
equipment used, the maturity and  competence of the students and the 
capabilities of the teacher to provide expert supervision. Some of these 
factors are expanded further below.
 
Class Spacing and Layout
The workplace must ensure that spacing is assessed when determining 
whether an art, design or technology area is appropriate. This includes 
assessing:
The overall size of the room – can all of the required equipment, 
students and school employees  physically fit into the space. An 
assessment of the space should include:
    * effective walkways;
    * lines of site;
    * additional space for the effective use of plant and equipment;
    * additional space to allow for the handling of materials (e.g. 
moving timber);
    * additional space required for materials storage; and
    * additional space required for the storage of works/projects that 
are in progress or completed.

Spacing around Individual Plant and Equipment – can each item of plant 
and equipment be used  safely and efficiently with respect to spacing? 
In general, it is recommended that there is at least 800mm free space 
around the point of use of any plant. This is taken from Compliance Code 
- Workplace Amenities and Work Environment (Worksafe Victoria, September 
2008) which states:
‘Movement in and around workstations needs to be free of obstructions 
such as plant, furniture, materials or other employees. Employers need 
to ensure that the space for  employees to move and work between plant, 
equipment, structures and materials is at least 800mm. This is to enable 
employees to work safely between machines, benches or counters. It will 
also allow them to evacuate quickly in an emergency.’
 
Figure 1: Space required around plant
<image001.jpg>
It should be noted that 800mm is only a general recommendation. The 
operation of the specific plant should be taken into account when 
determining appropriate spacing. For  example a drop saw may require 
more space to either side to allow for the material being cut. 
Conversely, a fully enclosed CNC machine may only require 800mm.
Layout of the Room – has the layout of the room been considered in terms 
of:
    * Frequency of plant and equipment use.

·         Are the most frequently used items easily accessible?
·         Are the most frequently used items grouped together? Could 
this cause congestion?
    * Location of higher risk equipment or activities. Are higher risk 
equipment or tasks located in an easily visible location, to enable 
active supervision,  or located away from high traffic walkways?
    * Location of store areas. Does the location of stored materials 
have any impact on the placement of plant/equipment and/or activities?
    * Project progression. Have plant/equipment and/or activities been 
located so that minimum movement is required. This would be especially 
relevant  when one task logically follows on from another (e.g. clay 
storage è potter’s wheel è kiln).

Overall, when determining the layout of a room, operations within that 
room must be able to be completed safely.
 
 


From:  destech-bounces at edulists.com.au 
[mailto:destech-bounces at edulists.com.au] On Behalf Of Kaylen Kornberg
  Sent: Tuesday, 29 November 2016 3:33 PM
  To: Design and Technology Teachers' Mailing List 
(destech at edulists.com.au)
  Subject: [Design and Technology] class numbers


 
Hi all.
Presently we are undergoing some changes at school and our wood tech 
class sizes have increased dramatically. Can I have some indication of 
what other schools’ class sizes are capped at for yrs 7-9  please as I 
am really  concerned about OH&S issues and the size of the room as we 
can only fit 10 rectangular benches in the space. Also, is there a 
specific distance between benches that is documented that can be used as 
a guide?
Thanks so much everyone as I am getting a bit stressed about all of 
this.


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