[Informatics] Combined Y11IT and Informatics Classes

[Bass, Gary S]

Greetings fellow Informaticists

there may be a third way..(parts of the previous discussion below)

At risk of offering a self serving suggestion, you can comment or otherwise.

Schools who cannot 'reasonably resource’ certain VCE 3/4 classes have the option of calling on Distance Education centre (DECV)
There is a small EFT cost for this service but not a full VCE allocation. So there would still be EFT available to provide a ‘local’ teacher as well as a full-time distance teacher.

This would enable the 1/2 and 3/4 to be in the same room at the same time, however the assessment would be in the hands on DECV.
The local teacher becomes a ‘coach' rather than an instructor/assessor.

This may be a far more sustainable model for many teachers and schools.
certainly an option not previously raised in this forum.

regards
Gary Bass
DECV - VCE Informatics

On 8 Sep 2016, at 11:12 PM, informatics-request at edulists.com.au<mailto:informatics-request at edulists.com.au> wrote:

From: informatics-bounces at edulists.com.au<mailto:informatics-bounces at edulists.com.au> [mailto:informatics-bounces at edulists.com.au] On Behalf Of Roland Gesthuizen
Sent: Thursday, 8 September 2016 4:20 PM
To: Year 12 VCE Informatics Teachers' Mailing List
Subject: Re: [Informatics] informatics Digest, Vol 11, Issue 23

Good point Mark, briefly entertained this notion one year. Another thought was to offer units 1,2 at year ten as an extended study then assemble a unit 3,4 class from the remaining year 11 and 12s.

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On 6 Sep 2016, at 2:55 PM, Mark <mark at vceit.com<mailto:mark at vceit.com>> wrote:
To clarify, I was suggesting that units 1&2 need not be taught at all.
One could just offer Unit 3+4 Info and SD on alternate years.

In my teaching career I rarely met a year 11 student who could handle IT units 1+2, but not Info or SD.
The KK and KS are nearly identical.

Regards,
Mark

On 6 September 2016 at 14:28, Pohlen, Gavin D <pohlen.gavin.d at edumail.vic.gov.au<mailto:pohlen.gavin.d at edumail.vic.gov.au>> wrote:
Similar to what Mark said.  I have taught at a school that ran the Units 12 concurrently with 34.  The way the timetable was structured allowed both year levels one to one class time and then a double session where all kids were on a the same time.  At times this required a little bit of juggling but it was possible :)

Gavin Pohlen

Kurunjang Secondary College
Ph: (03) 9743 9211
e: pohlen.gavin.d at edumail.vic.gov.au<mailto:pohlen.gavin.d at edumail.vic.gov.au>

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  2. Re: Combined Y11IT and Informatics Classes (Litsa Tzelepis)

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Hello Blaise -
we had a similar setup and so I jsut rang VCAA and asked them how to best
handle it.
Pretty much they said, that:
1. A very experienced teacher should be taking on the class.
2. The teacher should be compensated by lesser duties, like less yard
duties.
3. They should have a mentor to ensure all boxes are ticked.
4. The time allocation per study is met.
I hope this helps, Litsa xx

On Tue, Sep 6, 2016 at 12:20 PM, Northey, Blaise J <
northey.blaise.j at edumail.vic.gov.au<mailto:northey.blaise.j at edumail.vic.gov.au>> wrote:
Hello fellow Informaniacs,



Admin at our school have decided to merge Y11IT and Informatics classes
next year. I am wondering if anyone who has taught a merged class could
share their experiences either on list or off? Would also welcome other
thoughts about it from interested parties.



Regards,

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