[Informatics] informatics Digest, Vol 12, Issue 68

Mon Oct 31 14:36:32 AEDT 2016

Hi Heath and colleagues

I will contact DLTV and make certain that you receive the information you are entitled to receive. The association is in the process of redressing its staffing situation so some matters are taking a little longer to action. 

Regards
Paula

Paula Christophersen
Curriculum Manager, Digital Technologies
Victorian Curriculum and Assessment Authority
2 Lonsdale Street
MELBOURNE 3000
(03) 9032 1724
0407 043 110

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From: informatics-bounces at edulists.com.au [mailto:informatics-bounces at edulists.com.au] On Behalf Of Matheson, Heath A
Sent: Monday, 31 October 2016 2:16 PM
To: Year 12 VCE Informatics Teachers' Mailing List
Subject: Re: [Informatics] informatics Digest, Vol 12, Issue 68

On the same topic. I've been trying to get in touch with DLTV for the last four weeks. No answer and they use the 10 second message converted to text! No reply to e-mails. I was beginning to think that the organisation had gone under but I did get the newsletter last week. I have not received any updates to the resource pack since purchase and am wondering if there is a VCE exam in there now? I'm not feeling very supported by the organisation. Perhaps I'm just unlucky. 

Heath
Mt Beauty

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From: informatics-bounces at edulists.com.au [mailto:informatics-bounces at edulists.com.au] On Behalf Of Robert Hind
Sent: Sunday, 30 October 2016 3:58 PM
To: 'Year 12 VCE Informatics Teachers' Mailing List'
Subject: Re: [Informatics] informatics Digest, Vol 12, Issue 68

Seem to be two issues here: copyright and service or lack thereof.

Re copyright: Of course you are correct that people should not be copying materials and giving them to others who have not "paid" for them.
BUT people do get frustrated when they cannot access materials they have paid for and cannot get a timely response from the providers, be that book publishers or DTLV. The copyright act used to contain a provision allowing copying under these circumstances.
(I must get back to that science teacher at Morwell High who was foolish enough to give her science class, including my son, a test handwritten by me at Mirboo North.)

Robert Hind
Ex Traralgon and Ashwood
Retired

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From: informatics-bounces at edulists.com.au
[mailto:informatics-bounces at edulists.com.au] On Behalf Of Bass, Gary S
Sent: Sunday, 30 October 2016 2:58 PM
To: informatics at edulists.com.au
Subject: Re: [Informatics] informatics Digest, Vol 12, Issue 68

Greetings

i am not sure taking out on others is the appropriate response to lack of action since February.

On this list several times, mention has been made of access to answers to chapter questions, end of chapter quiz and SAT/SAC examples with suggested solutions.

This is the benefit of booklisting.
Your local Resources manager(Librarian?) will have these details.

Every year teachers need to renew their access codes and class codes.

This procedure is well established for several years (six i think) Asking for clearly copyrighted materials is a serious indiscretion, without getting into the legalities of the consequent action if anyone responds.

Book sellers at present are getting around booklisting, not responding to current teachers with requests for current courses, after their students have finished classes.

Google may be your friend, as was napster, bit-torrent and pirate bay, however we are over those now. ..
Under bright light of day anyway.

Gary Bass
DECV

> On 30 Oct 2016, at 12:00 PM, informatics-request at edulists.com.au wrote:
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> Date: Sat, 29 Oct 2016 07:08:07 +0000
> From: "Mekail, Nagla N" <mekail.nagla.n at edumail.vic.gov.au>
> Subject: Re: [Informatics] Nelson exam and answers
> To: "Year 12 VCE Informatics Teachers' Mailing List"
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> you are right Vera, I had to ring and then emailed the consultant 
> person
who wasn't available so I had to email two other consultants till one of them emailed me the code, I am totally agree with you, they made it hard. It is frustrated me as well because I wanted to give it to my students before their last day.
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> 
> regards,
> 
> Nagla
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> From: informatics-bounces at edulists.com.au
> [informatics-bounces at edulists.com.au] on behalf of Vera Cook 
> [vcook at mscw.vic.edu.au]
> Sent: Saturday, 29 October 2016 7:48 AM
> To: Year 12 VCE Informatics Teachers' Mailing List
> Subject: Re: [Informatics] Nelson exam and answers
> 
> I agree Mark, and normally I would not say anything but most schools
booklist the text book which in turn gives them access to the materials however many of their staff do not send access codes to the schools even when they are requested. The delay in the text book also stressed many teachers due to the delay and I did not get one until nearly the end of term one and that was after our librarian had to ring and email to ask why we did not have them. I know we only have a small group of students studying Informatics but they need to make it easier for us to obtain the resources which according to their own system that we are entitled to. With my new lap top trying to reset the password took ages as I kept getting blocked due to our firewall and it was incredibly frustrating. Then waiting for resources that have been paid for to arrive which I am sure I am not the only person with 12s finished for the year. One of our resources we were invoiced twice and am still waiting for r!
> esources. I have never felt more exhausted due to all this happening.
> 
> It may be beneficial if Nelson created a teacher version of the text 
> book
with access codes etc to relieve the pressure of us teachers who don?t have the time to keep chasing up ordered resources.
> 
> Has anyone else had the same issues this year. I have been teaching 
> for 20
years and have never spent as much time ringing, emailing and trying to chase up resources that have been paid for or that we are entitled to.
> 
> It?s bad enough I was lucky enough to witness a person run over by a 
> car
in Melbourne now I have had my first whinge for I don?t know how long.
> 
> Please rebut me now?.
> 
> Vera
> 
> From: informatics-bounces at edulists.com.au
> [mailto:informatics-bounces at edulists.com.au] On Behalf Of Mark
> Sent: Friday, 28 October 2016 3:42 PM
> To: Year 12 VCE Informatics Teachers' Mailing List 
> <informatics at edulists.com.au>
> Subject: Re: [Informatics] Nelson exam and answers
> 
> Hi everyone.
> 
> I am the Edulist Moderator here.  You may not believe that, but I even
have a shiny official badge*.
> 
> While it's really nice to be helpful to the community, please remember
that Nelson/Cengage material is their intellectual property and is protected by the Copyright Act 1968.
> 
> It is not fair or kind to Kevork to use his Edulist to share 
> copyrighted
material.
> 
> Regards,
> Moderator Mark
> 
> 
> *Kevork - please send badge.
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