[Informatics] Nelson exam and answers

Wed Nov 2 13:09:47 AEDT 2016

Of course whenever a law includes the word "reasonable" you can bet it will
cost you two years in court and a new Mercedes for every lawyer involved
before you "win".

Regards,
Mark

On 2 November 2016 at 12:31, Vera Cook <vcook at mscw.vic.edu.au> wrote:

> Thankyou Robert,
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> I didn’t think about the reasonable time provision in the Act. This year
> has been a bit crazy with having 11s and 12s combined with the two
> different study designs and I admit my head of IT has to order everything
> and he has been frustrated with me annoying him about resources.
>
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> Vera
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> *From:* informatics-bounces at edulists.com.au [mailto:informatics-bounces@
> edulists.com.au] *On Behalf Of *Robert Hind
> *Sent:* Wednesday, 2 November 2016 12:12 PM
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> *To:* 'Year 12 VCE Informatics Teachers' Mailing List' <
> informatics at edulists.com.au>
> *Subject:* Re: [Informatics] Nelson exam and answers
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> Perhaps this is really an issue where consumer law is involved rather than
> the Copyright Act.
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> One could perhaps make a fair use argument under the "reasonable time"
> provision in section 40 (2) (c).
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> Robert Hind
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> Ex Traralgon and Ashwood
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> Retired
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> *From:* informatics-bounces at edulists.com.au [mailto:informatics-bounces@
> edulists.com.au <informatics-bounces at edulists.com.au>] *On Behalf Of *Adric
> Gardner
> *Sent:* Wednesday, 2 November 2016 11:29 AM
> *To:* Year 12 VCE Informatics Teachers' Mailing List
> *Subject:* Re: [Informatics] Nelson exam and answers
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> Hi Vera,
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> I agree with you in principle, but the Copyright Act does not appear to
> have any provision for that.
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> I might not agree with speed limits, but I’m still legally required to
> abide by them.  If I choose not to, I’m breaking the law.
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> Mark’s point is that using the list in such a manner is using the list to
> do this is not fair on the administrator of the list.
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> Regards,
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> Adric Gardner
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> *From:* informatics-bounces at edulists.com.au [mailto:informatics-bounces@
> edulists.com.au <informatics-bounces at edulists.com.au>] *On Behalf Of *Vera
> Cook
> *Sent:* Saturday, 29 October 2016 7:49 AM
> *To:* Year 12 VCE Informatics Teachers' Mailing List <
> informatics at edulists.com.au>
> *Subject:* Re: [Informatics] Nelson exam and answers
>
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> I agree Mark, and normally I would not say anything but most schools
> booklist the text book which in turn gives them access to the materials
> however many of their staff do not send access codes to the schools even
> when they are requested. The delay in the text book also stressed many
> teachers due to the delay and I did not get one until nearly the end of
> term one and that was after our librarian had to ring and email to ask why
> we did not have them. I know we only have a small group of students
> studying Informatics but they need to make it easier for us to obtain the
> resources which according to their own system that we are entitled to. With
> my new lap top trying to reset the password took ages as I kept getting
> blocked due to our firewall and it was incredibly frustrating. Then waiting
> for resources that have been paid for to arrive which I am sure I am not
> the only person with 12s finished for the year. One of our resources we
> were invoiced twice and am still waiting for resources. I have never felt
> more exhausted due to all this happening.
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> It may be beneficial if Nelson created a teacher version of the text book
> with access codes etc to relieve the pressure of us teachers who don’t have
> the time to keep chasing up ordered resources.
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> Has anyone else had the same issues this year. I have been teaching for 20
> years and have never spent as much time ringing, emailing and trying to
> chase up resources that have been paid for or that we are entitled to.
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> It’s bad enough I was lucky enough to witness a person run over by a car
> in Melbourne now I have had my first whinge for I don’t know how long.
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> Please rebut me now….
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> Vera
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> *From:* informatics-bounces at edulists.com.au [mailto:informatics-bounces@
> edulists.com.au <informatics-bounces at edulists.com.au>] *On Behalf Of *Mark
> *Sent:* Friday, 28 October 2016 3:42 PM
> *To:* Year 12 VCE Informatics Teachers' Mailing List <
> informatics at edulists.com.au>
> *Subject:* Re: [Informatics] Nelson exam and answers
>
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>
> Hi everyone.
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> I am the Edulist Moderator here.  You may not believe that, but I even
> have a shiny official badge*.
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> While it's really nice to be helpful to the community, please remember
> that Nelson/Cengage material is their intellectual property and is
> protected by the Copyright Act 1968.
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> It is not fair or kind to Kevork to use his Edulist to share copyrighted
> material.
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> Regards,
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> Moderator Mark
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> *Kevork - please send badge.
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> On 28 October 2016 at 15:09, Aitken, David <dfaitken at mgs.vic.edu.au>
> wrote:
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> Me to please as I have sent an email to nelson and they have not replied.
> It’s been two weeks since I sent it.
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> *From:* informatics-bounces at edulists.com.au [mailto:informatics-bounces@
> edulists.com.au] *On Behalf Of *Vera Cook
> *Sent:* Friday, 28 October 2016 2:49 PM
> *To:* Year 12 VCE Informatics Teachers' Mailing List <
> informatics at edulists.com.au>
> *Subject:* [Informatics] Nelson exam and answers
> *Importance:* High
>
>
>
> Hi everyone,
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>
> Could someone please email me a copy of the nelson exam I can’t find my
> details to logon and really need it now>
>
>
>
> Vera
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