[Informatics] Primary Quantitative Data - Any sources?

[Christopher Jansen]

Ok... so I found some raw data on the ABS site that would be good to use.
http://www.cas.abs.gov.au/cgi-local/cassampler.pl

However I would still like to know categorically. (maybe Paula Christophersen could weigh in on this one)
 Is a graph or found on the ABS site considered a primary source?
Am I getting primary data and primary sources confused?

I would love for someone to tell me that we don't need students to conduct surveys to get primary quantitative data!

Thanks
Chris

From: informatics-bounces at edulists.com.au [mailto:informatics-bounces at edulists.com.au] On Behalf Of Matheson, Heath A
Sent: Wednesday, 23 March 2016 12:46 PM
To: Year 12 VCE Informatics Teachers' Mailing List
Subject: Re: [Informatics] Primary Quantitative Data - Any sources?

I have decided it's really up to you as a teacher. There is a difference between primary data and primary data source. I believe the ABS would be a primary data source as would AFL stats etc and their data would cover the primary source quantitative component. A news report or Wikipedia would be a secondary data source. The study design, SAT info doc and rubric only mentions "primary and secondary data sources". I actually can't see anywhere where it says students have to go out and do interviews and surveys for the SAT. Can you?

I feel I'm short on time both in preparation and in undertaking the task. It would be great if we were discussing this 12 months ago. It is going to be difficult to for students to find a feasible hypothesis and a lot of time is going to be spent teaching them how to do this. Therefore, this year at least,  I'm going to keep this as simple as possible.

This is interesting from the Study Design:
Informatics U3O2:
                primary and secondary data sources (digital and non digital) and
methods of data acquisition, including observation, interview and querying of resources
Software Development U3O2:
techniques for collecting data to determine needs and requirements, including interviews, surveys and observation

Why not surveying in Informatics?

Cheers,
Heath Matheson
Mount Beauty

From: informatics-bounces at edulists.com.au<mailto:informatics-bounces at edulists.com.au> [mailto:informatics-bounces at edulists.com.au] On Behalf Of Christopher Jansen
Sent: Wednesday, 23 March 2016 9:18 AM
To: informatics at edulists.com.au<mailto:informatics at edulists.com.au>
Subject: [Informatics] Primary Quantitative Data - Any sources?

Hello all.

I was getting my students to do a bit a check on their hypothesis today to make sure they could gather all the data needed to get a good mark. They were looking for primary quantitative data.

Am I right in thinking that the only real source of primary quantitative data is that gathered by the student in surveys?
It is hard to consider ABS stats as primary quantitative because the ABS do not offer raw/unedited/non value added data on the website. Therefore should the ABS stats and data be used as secondary quantitative?

If anyone else has some good primary quantitative data sources I would love to see them.

Thanks,

Christopher Jansen
ICT/Systems Coordinator



St Joseph's College Geelong
135 Aphrasia Street, Newtown Vic 3220
Ph Office: 03 5226 8100
Fax: 03 5221 6983
www.sjc.vic.edu.au<http://www.sjc.vic.edu.au/>
compassion innovation integrity
[cid:image001.jpg at 01D1850B.8AB2C080]<http://www.sjc.vic.edu.au/new/enrolments/open-day.html>

The contents of this email are CONFIDENTIAL. Any unauthorised use of the contents is expressly prohibited.
If you have received this email in error, please immediately advise St Joseph's College Geelong by phone on 03 5226 8100
and then delete/destroy the email and any printed copies. Thank you.
[cid:image005.gif at 01CF1B8C.453E5CC0]




Important - This email and any attachments may be confidential. If received in error, please contact us and delete all copies. Before opening or using attachments check them for viruses and defects. Regardless of any loss, damage or consequence, whether caused by the negligence of the sender or not, resulting directly or indirectly from the use of any attached files our liability is limited to resupplying any affected attachments. Any representations or opinions expressed are those of the individual sender, and not necessarily those of the Department of Education and Training.
-------------- next part --------------
An HTML attachment was scrubbed...
URL: http://www.edulists.com.au/pipermail/informatics/attachments/20160323/7360e6a9/attachment-0001.html 
-------------- next part --------------
A non-text attachment was scrubbed...
Name: image001.jpg
Type: image/jpeg
Size: 40931 bytes
Desc: image001.jpg
Url : http://www.edulists.com.au/pipermail/informatics/attachments/20160323/7360e6a9/image001-0001.jpg 
-------------- next part --------------
A non-text attachment was scrubbed...
Name: image002.png
Type: image/png
Size: 5409 bytes
Desc: image002.png
Url : http://www.edulists.com.au/pipermail/informatics/attachments/20160323/7360e6a9/image002-0001.png