[Informatics] Ethical dilemmas - who is responsible for the first death caused by a self-driving vehicle?

Sat Jul 2 18:19:10 AEST 2016

That's a great point.
Litsa

On Saturday, 2 July 2016, ken price <kenjprice at gmail.com> wrote:

> 1,209 Australians died in motor vehicle accidents with human drivers last
> year alone.
>
> I'd suggest it won't be too long before human drivers will be the unsafe
> option, and to continue allowing human-driven cars would become ethically
> questionable.
>
> kp
>
> On Sat, Jul 2, 2016 at 5:30 PM, Litsa Tzelepis <htzelepis at msj.vic.edu.au
> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','htzelepis at msj.vic.edu.au');>> wrote:
>
>> Hello.
>> Basically, I think that in a ideal world we would find it nice to hand
>> over most of our daily tasks to technology. But driving I think should not
>> be one. It's dangerous and not necessary. Someone had died as a result. Not
>> good enough. How sad and pointless. Who's to blame? That's a tough one.
>> :-(
>>
>> ---
>>
>> On Saturday, 2 July 2016, <timmer at westnet.com.au
>> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','timmer at westnet.com.au');>> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> Apart from ethical concerns there is also a story in this about how
>>> fundamental design decisions can have a big influence on the final product.
>>> The nytimes article finishes with a paragraph indicating that the
>>> Tesla's self-drive is a 'driver assist' approach.
>>>
>>> In this TED talk,
>>> https://www.ted.com/talks/chris_urmson_how_a_driverless_car_sees_the_road?language=en
>>> Urmson explains why Google abandoned that approach and have aimed for
>>> complete self-drive; ie assumes there is no driver (in a nut shell, drivers
>>> treat drive-assist as self-drive and stop paying attention to what is going
>>> on around them - danger, Will Robinson!)
>>> It will be interesting to see how this technology goes.
>>> (maybe I'm taking this a bit far, but it is also an interesting
>>> evaluation question: how do you decide in 10 years time which is the safer
>>> technology: driver only, driver-assist, or self-drive?)
>>>
>>> Regards
>>> Robert T-A
>>>
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>>> Re: [Informatics] Ethical dilemmas - who is responsible for the first
>>> death caused by a self-driving vehicle?
>>>
>>>
>>> It appears that the driver has been identified as Tesla proponent Joshua
>>> Brown, 40, of Canton, Ohio
>>>
>>> http://www.nytimes.com/2016/07/01/business/self-driving-tesla-fatal-crash-investigation.html?_r=0
>>>
>>>
>>> Oddly this video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9I5rraWJq6E shows a
>>> Tesla autopilot saving its owners life in April this year.
>>> The video was uploaded by ... Tesla owner Joshua Brown of Ohio.
>>>
>>> kp
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Fri, Jul 1, 2016 at 4:34 PM, Mark <mark at vceit.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> It was bound to happen eventually...
>>>>
>>>> "A TESLA MODEL S driver using the car’s semi-autonomous Autopilot
>>>> feature died when the car hit an 18-wheeler, the first known fatality
>>>> involving technology that remains in beta testing."
>>>>
>>>> Read more...
>>>>
>>>> https://www.wired.com/2016/06/teslas-autopilot-first-deadly-crash/
>>>>
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>>>> Mark Kelly
>>>>
>>>> mark at vceit.com
>>>> http://vceit.com
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