[Informatics] 1. Re: SAT Report

Thu Apr 28 12:16:21 AEST 2016

Hi All,

I'm also a little curious as too how much assistance we are too provide to
students through this process. My two classes all now have their hypothesis
and are all deep into the stages of collecting their data. Last lesson I
detailed what they need to complete for their Scope and Constraints, along
with the Gantt Chart in it's preliminary stages (i'm also using the
checklist that was provided on here, but obviously modified it somewhat to
suit my classes). I am at the stage now where I'm demonstrating to them how
to put all of these stages into a report using the sample SAT report in the
DLTV resource kit. How much assistance is everyone providing? I don't want
to hold their hand but because this is both new to them and myself however
I don't want to throw them in the deep end either. A lot of them are
struggling to grasp the concept of actually having to be organised and
responsible for sorting through mountains of data they are collecting.

Cheers

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> Hello All,
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> Filemaker Pro has severe limitations with statistics, especially measures
> of central tendency. No modefunction standard deviation etc.
> How are Filemaker users planning to get around this when students come to
> analysing and manipulating SAT data?
> As far as I can discern the Study Design says that an RDBMS must be used
> for this. So Excel not an option?
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> From: Mark <mark at vceit.com>
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> Hi Donald
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> U3O1 requires a RDBMS.
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> U3O2 calls for "Appropriate tool for documenting project plans. Software
> tools to capture, store, prepare and manipulate data" (study design p.28)
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> No database is specified.
> I'd say Excel would be the tool of choice for most people.
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> Regards
> Mark
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> On 28 April 2016 at 11:18, Watson, Donald R <
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> > Hello All,
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> > Filemaker Pro has severe limitations with statistics, especially measures
> > of central tendency. No modefunction standard deviation etc.
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> > How are Filemaker users planning to get around this when students come to
> > analysing and manipulating SAT data?
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> > As far as I can discern the Study Design says that an RDBMS must be used
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> Thanks Litsa
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> ?Hello Jordyn,
> ?
> I was planning to hand my students a checklist like the one we were shown
> on the PD we went to - please see attached.
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> Litsa :-)
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> On Wed, Apr 27, 2016 at 2:14 PM, Croft, Jordyn J <
> croft.jordyn.j at edumail.vic.gov.au<mailto:croft.jordyn.j at edumail.vic.gov.au>>
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> Hi all,
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> My students have developed their hypotheses and have just about finished
> the project plan. We are now looking at how to do the report and some of
> them are a little anxious as they are not sure of exactly what should be on
> the report. I?ve shown them examples of what the report could look like and
> also shown them the criteria, thinking they would be able to work out what
> needs to be on the report from there.
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> Would it be considered undue assistance if I gave them a checklist of
> things they need to include or if I gave them headings to use on the report?
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> Jordyn Croft
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