[Informatics] OT- Macbooks vs PCs

Wed Dec 2 13:45:18 AEDT 2015

Yes, its the way to go forward with this. Last week I had a good talk about this with Garry Bass last week who helped me to understand why this was so and the learning errors that come with teaching databases with just MS Access. Margaret Lawson also did some homework to point out that the time was ripe to start using SQL. Glad I took the plunge.

Just asked my 2016 year 12 students and they give it a big thumbs up. There you go!

Regards Roland

PS: Crikey, my last VCE Class at Keysborough College and they are lining up to shake my hand. Go outside and kick a ball ..

> On 2 Dec 2015, at 1:37 PM, Baas, Benjamin B <baas.benjamin.b at edumail.vic.gov.au> wrote:
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> I ran SQL with some of my students this year, I gave them a choice between SQL and Access. The students that did SQL better on the SAC than the Access students.
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> Cheers,
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> Ben.
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> From: informatics-bounces at edulists.com.au [mailto:informatics-bounces at edulists.com.au] On Behalf Of Roland Gesthuizen
> Sent: Wednesday, 2 December 2015 1:21 PM
> To: Year 12 VCE Informatics Teachers' Mailing List <informatics at edulists.com.au>
> Subject: Re: [Informatics] OT- Macbooks vs PCs
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> I am going to make do with SQL and wean myself off MS Access next year.
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> During our year 12 headstart course (a keysborough transition course for year 11 students) I was quite impressed by how the kids took to it using the Khan Academy tutorials, crikey they learned it fast and better than my chugalug approach to teaching MS Access. OpenOffice Base is better now too but I reckon that SQL Lite could work just fine for what we need to do for 2016. I’ll keep you posted how I go.
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> https://www.khanacademy.org/computing/computer-programming/sql <https://www.khanacademy.org/computing/computer-programming/sql>
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> https://www.evernote.com/l/AB-2p_5qfdZJo6H1Y5vgkws-9W1PmU-TNkA <https://www.evernote.com/l/AB-2p_5qfdZJo6H1Y5vgkws-9W1PmU-TNkA>
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> Regards Roland
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> On 2 Dec 2015, at 12:42 PM, Poke, Michael C <poke.michael.c at edumail.vic.gov.au <mailto:poke.michael.c at edumail.vic.gov.au>> wrote:
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> Hi Sylvia, 
> Here at Manor Lake College we use Apple computers and devices across the college. It’s awesome as far as what students can do present their work in innovative ways.  As far as from an Informatics perspective, the lack of a decent (free) database management system like MS Access has been a real issue.  We survived using Libre Office Base but as an open source platform, it was prone to crashing at times and doing things a bit funny.  Now we’ve managed to get our IT guys to set up remote access to MS Access for Windows via the College server.  It works like a virtual machine but only gives them direct access to Access… but only at school on our iMacs in our computer labs. It was tricky for the IT guys to set up, but now it’s all set up, it works well. We’ll see how it goes in 2016. 
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> Hope this is useful to you.
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> Cheers,
> Michael
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> On 2 Dec 2015, at 11:09 AM, Sylvia Pastore <smp191172 at gmail.com <mailto:smp191172 at gmail.com>> wrote:
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> Hi all 
> Just wanted to know of any schools that have moved from PCs to Macbooks. How has your experience been and what are issues that you have had. Would love to have feedback of schools that have done this move and the reaction of staff as well!!!!
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> Thanks in advance for your thoughts
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> Sylvia
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