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color:#1F497D'>Just the sort of comment to make Tuesday morning enjoyable. But
what was Ros doing on her computer at 12:36am<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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color:navy'>Ian Clare</span></i></b><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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color:#1F497D'>ICT Co-ordinator</span><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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color:#1F497D'>e-mail <a href="mailto:clare.ian.j@edumail.vic.gov.au"
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"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:windowtext'>From:</span></b><span lang=EN-US
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:windowtext'> yr7-10it-bounces@edulists.com.au
[mailto:yr7-10it-bounces@edulists.com.au] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Ros Meadows<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, 12 May 2009 12:36 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> Year 7 - 10 Information Technology Teachers' Mailing List<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Yr7-10it] RE: passwords<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>I don't get
all this talk about passwords! Whenever I see someone typing in their password
they just type **********<br>
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Cheers<br>
Ros<br>
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Kent Beveridge wrote: <o:p></o:p></p>
<pre>A word with a number for me and a few colleagues here...<o:p></o:p></pre><pre> <o:p></o:p></pre><pre>Kent Beveridge,<o:p></o:p></pre><pre>I.C.T. co-ordinator<o:p></o:p></pre><pre>St. Brigids Catholic Sec. College<o:p></o:p></pre><pre> <a
href="http://www.stbc.vic.edu.au/">http://www.stbc.vic.edu.au/</a> <a
href="http://www.stbc.vic.edu.au/"><http://www.stbc.vic.edu.au/></a> <o:p></o:p></pre><pre>Horsham Ph (03) 5382 3545<o:p></o:p></pre><pre><a
href="mailto:kbeveridge@stbc.vic.edu.au">kbeveridge@stbc.vic.edu.au</a><o:p></o:p></pre><pre>"This email and any attachments may be confidential. You must not disclose or use the information in this email if you are not the intended recipient. If you have received this email in error, please notify us immediately and delete the email and all copies. The School does not guarantee that this email is virus or error free. The attached files are provided and my only be used on the basis that the user assumes all responsibility for any loss, damage or consequence resulting directly or indirectly from the use of the attached files, whether caused by the negligence of the sender or not. The content and opinions in this email are not necessarily those of the School."<o:p></o:p></pre><pre><o:p> </o:p></pre><pre>________________________________<o:p></o:p></pre><pre><o:p> </o:p></pre><pre>From: <a
href="mailto:yr7-10it-bounces@edulists.com.au">yr7-10it-bounces@edulists.com.au</a> on behalf of Jim Bunn<o:p></o:p></pre><pre>Sent: Mon 5/11/2009 11:32 AM<o:p></o:p></pre><pre>To: 'Year 7 - 10 Information Technology Teachers' Mailing List'<o:p></o:p></pre><pre>Subject: RE: [Yr7-10it] RE: passwords <o:p></o:p></pre><pre><o:p> </o:p></pre><pre><o:p> </o:p></pre><pre><o:p> </o:p></pre><pre>I use a long word, or two words together, with some capitals interspersed,<o:p></o:p></pre><pre>and ended with numbers representing the date. That way I know when I should<o:p></o:p></pre><pre>make a new one.<o:p></o:p></pre><pre><o:p> </o:p></pre><pre>Jim<o:p></o:p></pre><pre><o:p> </o:p></pre><pre><o:p> </o:p></pre><pre>Jim Bunn<o:p></o:p></pre><pre><o:p> </o:p></pre><pre>Technology Coordinator<o:p></o:p></pre><pre>Hampton Park Secondary College<o:p></o:p></pre><pre>8795 9400<o:p></o:p></pre><pre>CCAI CCNA ITE1<o:p></o:p></pre><pre><o:p> </o:p></pre><pre><a
href="mailto:bunn.jim.c@edumail.vic.gov.au">bunn.jim.c@edumail.vic.gov.au</a><o:p></o:p></pre><pre><o:p> </o:p></pre><pre><o:p> </o:p></pre><pre><o:p> </o:p></pre><pre>-----Original Message-----<o:p></o:p></pre><pre>From: <a
href="mailto:yr7-10it-bounces@edulists.com.au">yr7-10it-bounces@edulists.com.au</a><o:p></o:p></pre><pre>[<a
href="mailto:yr7-10it-bounces@edulists.com.au">mailto:yr7-10it-bounces@edulists.com.au</a>] On Behalf Of <a
href="mailto:stephen@melbpc.org.au">stephen@melbpc.org.au</a><o:p></o:p></pre><pre>Sent: Monday, 11 May 2009 10:15 AM<o:p></o:p></pre><pre>To: <a
href="mailto:oz-teachers@rite.ed.qut.edu.au">oz-teachers@rite.ed.qut.edu.au</a>; <a
href="mailto:oztl_net@listserv.csu.edu.au">oztl_net@listserv.csu.edu.au</a><o:p></o:p></pre><pre>Cc: <a
href="mailto:offtopic@edulists.com.au">offtopic@edulists.com.au</a>; <a
href="mailto:yr7-10it@edulists.com.au">yr7-10it@edulists.com.au</a><o:p></o:p></pre><pre>Subject: [Yr7-10it] RE: passwords<o:p></o:p></pre><pre><o:p> </o:p></pre><pre>Hi all,<o:p></o:p></pre><pre><o:p> </o:p></pre><pre> <o:p></o:p></pre>
<blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><pre>According to The Age, the New Scientist magazine recently advises<o:p></o:p></pre><pre>that, for your passwords, people should, 'pick two unrelated words,<o:p></o:p></pre><pre>and join them with a punctuation mark.' Their example given,<o:p></o:p></pre><pre> <o:p></o:p></pre></blockquote>
<pre>'magpie/towerblock'<o:p></o:p></pre><pre> <o:p></o:p></pre>
<blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><pre>They assert such passwords are memorable while also difficult to guess.<o:p></o:p></pre><pre> <o:p></o:p></pre></blockquote>
<pre><o:p> </o:p></pre><pre><o:p> </o:p></pre><pre>For possible interest and assistance re passwords here are the responses<o:p></o:p></pre><pre>from our Ed colleagues, across education lists, and, in order of receipt:<o:p></o:p></pre><pre><o:p> </o:p></pre><pre>--<o:p></o:p></pre><pre><o:p> </o:p></pre><pre>For secure passwords I use a pattern on the keyboard. For instance<o:p></o:p></pre><pre>bhuYGV567 - Just remember where it starts and whether you have caps on or<o:p></o:p></pre><pre>not. The computations are endless and difficult for hackers to guess.<o:p></o:p></pre><pre>Terry<o:p></o:p></pre><pre><o:p> </o:p></pre><pre>--<o:p></o:p></pre><pre><o:p> </o:p></pre><pre>I have certain phrases that are easy to remember and i simply use them as a<o:p></o:p></pre><pre>mnemonic, taking the first letter from each word... for example "The<o:p></o:p></pre><pre>Quick Brown Fox Jumps Over The Lazy Dog" would become "TQBFJOTLD" Most<o:p></o:p></pre><pre>passwords should have upper and lower case and numbers, so just find a<o:p></o:p></pre><pre>phrase that works with that... "The 12 days of Christmas" would become<o:p></o:p></pre><pre>"T12doC" Car number plates make good passwords too. Chris PS, none of<o:p></o:p></pre><pre>those passwords above are actually mine, just in case you were wondering<o:p></o:p></pre><pre>:-)<o:p></o:p></pre><pre><o:p> </o:p></pre><pre>--<o:p></o:p></pre><pre><o:p> </o:p></pre><pre>This year I found an algorithm to generate new passwords for our Novell<o:p></o:p></pre><pre>network. They consisted of four letters that read to create random and<o:p></o:p></pre><pre>obscure word. I just added two random numbers to the end. This year nobody<o:p></o:p></pre><pre>came back to me asking to change the password. The thought of just making<o:p></o:p></pre><pre>two words is a splendid suggestion for new users. :-)<o:p></o:p></pre><pre><o:p> </o:p></pre><pre>The DEECD cases admin system mandates the use of passwords with numbers,<o:p></o:p></pre><pre>case elements and other cryptic components. Tighter security that users find<o:p></o:p></pre><pre>hostile to their memory will suffer from the danger that they will defeat<o:p></o:p></pre><pre>the password by secretly recording the password on a location near the<o:p></o:p></pre><pre>computer. I have seen this done on countless occasions. As one chap pointed<o:p></o:p></pre><pre>out, it made as much as much sense as asking him to memorise (Pi) to xxx<o:p></o:p></pre><pre>places (something I did a long time ago when I had too much time on my<o:p></o:p></pre><pre>hands) Regards Roland<o:p></o:p></pre><pre><o:p> </o:p></pre><pre>--<o:p></o:p></pre><pre><o:p> </o:p></pre><pre>At my school I give every student a password that consists of a three letter<o:p></o:p></pre><pre>word, a dash, another three letter word and a number eg rub-won9 I once<o:p></o:p></pre><pre>typed out 150 three letter words I found from the Internet. I used Excel to<o:p></o:p></pre><pre>concatenate the four bits into one password. Cheers David<o:p></o:p></pre><pre><o:p> </o:p></pre><pre>--<o:p></o:p></pre><pre><o:p> </o:p></pre><pre>Two completely unrelated words....hmmm....<o:p></o:p></pre><pre><o:p> </o:p></pre><pre>windows&works<o:p></o:p></pre><pre>logies+entertainment<o:p></o:p></pre><pre>richmond-win<o:p></o:p></pre><pre>NRL<IQ<o:p></o:p></pre><pre><o:p> </o:p></pre><pre>Yeah - I can see what they're getting at, fiendishly clever. Endless<o:p></o:p></pre><pre>possibilities. Cameron<o:p></o:p></pre><pre><o:p> </o:p></pre><pre>--<o:p></o:p></pre><pre><o:p> </o:p></pre><pre>AHHH, Now I understand ......<o:p></o:p></pre><pre><o:p> </o:p></pre><pre>Military/intelligence<o:p></o:p></pre><pre>Common/sense<o:p></o:p></pre><pre><o:p> </o:p></pre><pre>*giggle*<o:p></o:p></pre><pre><o:p> </o:p></pre><pre>Colin<o:p></o:p></pre><pre><o:p> </o:p></pre><pre>--<o:p></o:p></pre><pre><o:p> </o:p></pre><pre>(and, regarding a reference for the original item/post)<o:p></o:p></pre><pre><o:p> </o:p></pre><pre>Well, dont have a url, but, it was a one paragraph item in the "Loose<o:p></o:p></pre><pre>Change' column by one James Lockington, on page 3 of the "Money Talks"<o:p></o:p></pre><pre>section of the "Money" centre liftout section of The Age, Wed May 6th<o:p></o:p></pre><pre>2009 edition. I just basically typed up the entire one paragraph item.<o:p></o:p></pre><pre>Cheers, Stephen<o:p></o:p></pre><pre><o:p> </o:p></pre><pre>--<o:p></o:p></pre><pre><o:p> </o:p></pre><pre>Thanks,<o:p></o:p></pre><pre>Stephen<o:p></o:p></pre><pre>_______________________________________________<o:p></o:p></pre><pre><a
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