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David, <BR>
the answer is both Materials I can use to to walk the men through the functionality of the various software packages and software I can load onto the old PCs we receive to enable the men to use and practice what they have learnt. As I understand it Open software is the cheapest available at minimum/least cost. I volunteer my time and no fee is charged except for our sausage sizzle.<BR>thanks,<BR>
apologies for duplicate messages.<BR><BR>
<DIV><FONT face="Lucida Handwriting, Cursive" color=#0066ff>Geoffory M Crombie</FONT></DIV><BR><BR>
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From: doolan.david.j@edumail.vic.gov.au<BR>To: yr7-10it@edulists.com.au<BR>Subject: RE: [Yr7-10it] Help!!<BR>Date: Sun, 27 Apr 2008 14:28:52 +1000<BR><BR>
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<P class=EC_MsoNormal><FONT face="Times New Roman" color=black size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; COLOR: black">Geoff are you after software or Teaching material???</SPAN></FONT></P>
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<P class=EC_MsoNormal><B><FONT face=Tahoma size=2><SPAN lang=EN-US style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma">From:</SPAN></FONT></B><FONT face=Tahoma size=2><SPAN lang=EN-US style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma"> yr7-10it-bounces@edulists.com.au [mailto:yr7-10it-bounces@edulists.com.au] <B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">On Behalf Of </SPAN></B>Geoffory Crombie<BR><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Sent:</SPAN></B> Sunday, 27 April 2008 2:20 PM<BR><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">To:</SPAN></B> Year 7 - 10 Information Technology Teachers' Mailing List<BR><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Subject:</SPAN></B> RE: [Yr7-10it] Help!!</SPAN></FONT><SPAN lang=EN-US></SPAN></P></DIV>
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<P class=EC_MsoNormal style="MARGIN-BOTTOM: 12pt"><FONT face=Tahoma size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma">Help I an assisting at the Chelsea mens Shed.<BR>At present I have worked through what is a computer by taking the men through the need to keep a computer clean. we dismantled a computer and thoroughly cleaned the dust from an old pentium we had been given. Now the men are interested in the basics of the various programs like Word ,Escel, database, Publisdher etc as they put together their own notices for events. <BR>My knowledge is somewhat damage since the my brain aneurysm. <BR>Asssitance in locating where I may obtain 'open ' software to perform the various function at minimum or gratious costs would be appreciated. acknowledgements of all assistants would be acknowledge by the group in their endeavours.<BR>my thanks in advance.<BR></SPAN></FONT><FONT face=Cursive color=#0066ff size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: #0066ff; FONT-FAMILY: Cursive">Geoffory M Crombie</SPAN></FONT><FONT face=Tahoma size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma"><BR><BR></SPAN></FONT></P>
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<P class=EC_MsoNormal style="MARGIN-BOTTOM: 12pt"><FONT face=Tahoma size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma">From: van.otterdyk.marcel.j@edumail.vic.gov.au<BR>To: yr7-10it@edulists.com.au<BR>Subject: RE: [Yr7-10it] robots <BR>Date: Tue, 8 Apr 2008 10:30:08 +1000</SPAN></FONT></P>
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<P class=EC_MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Hi Rob,</SPAN></FONT><FONT face=Tahoma size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma"></SPAN></FONT></P>
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<P class=EC_MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">I’ve attached the draft of a unit I wrote. This is fairly structured. Version two is more open ended but incomplete. </SPAN></FONT><FONT face=Tahoma size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma"></SPAN></FONT></P>
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<P class=EC_MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">NXT is just the latest in a line of Lego Robotics systems. Also known as the “Grey brick” replaces the “Yellow Brick”</SPAN></FONT><FONT face=Tahoma size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma"></SPAN></FONT></P>
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<P class=EC_MsoNormal><B><FONT face=Tahoma size=2><SPAN lang=EN-US style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma">From:</SPAN></FONT></B><FONT face=Tahoma size=2><SPAN lang=EN-US style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma"> yr7-10it-bounces@edulists.com.au [mailto:yr7-10it-bounces@edulists.com.au] <B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">On Behalf Of </SPAN></B>Costello, Rob R<BR><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Sent:</SPAN></B> Tuesday, 8 April 2008 9:42 AM<BR><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">To:</SPAN></B> Year 7 - 10 Information Technology Teachers' Mailing List<BR><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Subject:</SPAN></B> RE: [Yr7-10it] robots </SPAN></FONT><FONT face=Tahoma size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma"></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
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<P class=EC_MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Would love any resources you could send Marcel – thanks </SPAN></FONT><FONT face=Tahoma size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma"></SPAN></FONT></P>
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<P class=EC_MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">And thanks to Bill for the Logo book resource – sounds promising </SPAN></FONT><FONT face=Tahoma size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma"></SPAN></FONT></P>
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<P class=EC_MsoNormal><B><FONT face=Tahoma size=2><SPAN lang=EN-US style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma">From:</SPAN></FONT></B><FONT face=Tahoma size=2><SPAN lang=EN-US style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma"> yr7-10it-bounces@edulists.com.au [mailto:yr7-10it-bounces@edulists.com.au] <B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">On Behalf Of </SPAN></B>Marcel van Otterdyk<BR><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Sent:</SPAN></B> Tuesday, 8 April 2008 9:32 AM<BR><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">To:</SPAN></B> 'Year 7 - 10 Information Technology Teachers' Mailing List'<BR><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Subject:</SPAN></B> RE: [Yr7-10it] robots </SPAN></FONT><FONT face=Tahoma size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma"></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
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<P class=EC_MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">At Strathmore Secondary College we developed a Math, Science and Technology unit using Lego NXT stuff. In 2006 I received funding through Innovations and Excellence to purchase some kits. Kids really enjoyed it. The NXT programming is very intuitive and kids largely teach themselves. At present we are working with VSSEC and the autonomous systems dept from the University of Sydney to further develop the units. I can send you some material, still in draft form, if you wish.</SPAN></FONT><FONT face=Tahoma size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma"></SPAN></FONT></P>
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<P class=EC_MsoNormal><B><FONT face=Tahoma size=2><SPAN lang=EN-US style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma">From:</SPAN></FONT></B><FONT face=Tahoma size=2><SPAN lang=EN-US style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma"> yr7-10it-bounces@edulists.com.au [mailto:yr7-10it-bounces@edulists.com.au] <B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">On Behalf Of </SPAN></B>Costello, Rob R<BR><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Sent:</SPAN></B> Saturday, 5 April 2008 9:14 PM<BR><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">To:</SPAN></B> Year 7 - 10 Information Technology Teachers' Mailing List<BR><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Subject:</SPAN></B> [Yr7-10it] robots </SPAN></FONT><FONT face=Tahoma size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma"></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
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<P class=EC_MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">in general? </SPAN></FONT><FONT face=Tahoma size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma"></SPAN></FONT></P>
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