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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>I agree with you Anne-Marie. Personally I
think it is very much about the leadership in the school and the recognition
that in order to ensure that ICT becomes fully integrated we must make sure
that there is a true level of support to ensure that both teachers and students
can be provided with the “just in time” support and PD that they
need. I am in the very fortunate position to have most of my teaching time
allocated to supporting the training and development of teacher skills in
integrating ICT into their teaching programs in our school. I also teach
dedicated ICT classes for Years 7 & 8 (one double period for each class per
week)<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
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focussed a good percentage of support at Years 5,6, 7& 8. In this way I see
that these students will enter their secondary schooling with a fundamental understanding
of the way ICT can support their thinking and learning processes. I’m
probably looking at it though from an ordinary teacher with interests in ICT
rather than from a highly skilled and trained ICT teacher (which I’m not
!) <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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yr7-10it-bounces@edulists.com.au [mailto:yr7-10it-bounces@edulists.com.au] <b><span
style='font-weight:bold'>On Behalf Of </span></b>Anne-Marie Chase<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> Friday, 12 October 2007 3:58
PM<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> '<st1:PersonName w:st="on">Year
7 - 10 Information Technology Teachers' Mailing List</st1:PersonName>'<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> RE: [Yr7-10it] Year 7-10
IT structures</span></font><span lang=EN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=blue face="Trebuchet MS"><span
lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS";color:blue'>I’m
not sure that making ICT non-compulsory is a bad thing if subject teachers are
supported by ICT specialists so they can integrate ICT into their subject area
in a meaningful way. All the schools I have ever taught in I have had periods
allocated where I am not teaching but available to provide support to
teachers. I have then worked with teachers in the best way for them, team
teaching, classroom support, PD, providing access to hardware or software
etc. I tired to keep an ear out for what was going on where in the school
and make suggestion and encourage use of ICT. Some subject areas see ICT
as being irrelevant so this can take a lot time to build trust and confidence
with some teachers, before they will consider anything new. <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=blue face="Trebuchet MS"><span
lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS";color:blue'>I
worked with a group of English teachers studying Romeo and Juliet with year
10’s. We did web design and the combination of skills made it a
fantastic project. I was only able to attend one lesson a week, so the
students had to wait to have technical problems dealt with at that one lesson
or support each other. I offered e-mail support to the students which was
great to see them define problems and independently seek support. Some of
the teachers did something they had never had the confidence to do
before. Some students who had never previously been engaged really
excelled. The whole writing for a purpose and writing for a specific
audience was covered much better by the English teachers than I would be able
to do it. Too many great things to list……………<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=blue face="Trebuchet MS"><span
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=blue face="Trebuchet MS"><span
lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS";color:blue'>Over
the years I have worked with teachers from just about every subject area to
deliver projects that have ICT integrated in a meaningful way. <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=blue face="Trebuchet MS"><span
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=blue face="Trebuchet MS"><span
lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS";color:blue'>I
think sometimes the leadership in schools needs to be offered ideas about how
to deliver ICT. Discreet ICT lessons do not have to be the way to go,
many of the social and cultural issues related to ICT would be difficult to
cover in a discrete lesson but fit perfectly into the context of a subject
area.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS";color:blue'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=blue face="Trebuchet MS"><span
lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS";color:blue'>Cheers<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS";color:blue'>Anne-Marie<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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yr7-10it-bounces@edulists.com.au [mailto:yr7-10it-bounces@edulists.com.au] <b><span
style='font-weight:bold'>On Behalf Of </span></b>Mclean, Rachelle L<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> 12 October 2007 12:30<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> <st1:PersonName w:st="on">Year
7 - 10 Information Technology Teachers' Mailing List</st1:PersonName><br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> RE: [Yr7-10it] Year 7-10
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>I’m at Hampton Park Secondary and
there’s no compulsory ICT here either. It is ridiculous. The
school’s attitude is that every teacher can teach ICT integrated with
their regular units. As if!!!!!!!!!!!! <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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yr7-10it-bounces@edulists.com.au [mailto:yr7-10it-bounces@edulists.com.au] <b><span
style='font-weight:bold'>On Behalf Of </span></b>Colin SUTTON<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> Thursday, 11 October 2007
8:59 PM<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> yr7-10it@edulists.com.au<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> [Yr7-10it] Year 7-10 IT
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'>Hi all<br>
<br>
My school, <st1:place w:st="on"><st1:City w:st="on">Montmorency</st1:City> <st1:State
w:st="on">SC</st1:State></st1:place>, has NO compulsory ICT!<br>
<br>
A student can go through 6 years of schooling here and do NO formal IT.<br>
<br>
No other school I have ever taught in (2 in Vic, 3 in QLD and 4 in the <st1:place
w:st="on"><st1:country-region w:st="on">UK</st1:country-region></st1:place>)
have ever had this! <br>
<br>
It seems unbelievable that in the Information Age students are not formally
taught ANY ICT.<br>
<br>
They have to learn another language, do wood, metal, cooking and sewing -
useful and even essential - but the ONE thing none of them can avoid is ICT! <br>
<br>
Sure, many can play games and surf to sites, but they are not formally taught a
wide range of other useful or essentail skills.<br>
<br>
Schools I have taught in elsewhere had at least one semester of ICT at Year 7
(Yr 8 in QLD as secondary starts in Yr8). <br>
<br>
Most had an elective system that required them to do at least
ONE or more units at 8/9 or even again in Yr 10.<br>
<br>
Comments anyone?<br>
<br>
<br>
Regards<br>
<br>
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