Like many of you, I have a regular shuttle of student teachers who work to help create handy and good IT resources that I can use in my classroom. Wearing my second hat, I also help mentor new teachers cross the bridge from being just a classroom teacher to a member of a wider profession and member of the VIT
<br><br>I have shown and encouraged them all how to join these splendid lists, read and follow our debates, contribute their resources to Edulists and the VITTA resource bank under a creative commons licence to share. Can you imagine how encouraging and motivating it is for a student teacher to later read the compliments posted and their handouts downloaded over 100 times? Reaching perhaps 1000+ students can really make them feel like a contributing IT educator.
<br><br>Beats throwing it all away at the end of the academic year. We should not let the daemon of perfection or small ambitions stall their opportunity to contribute.<br><br>Regards Roland<br><br><div><span class="gmail_quote">
On 03/02/07, <b class="gmail_sendername">Martin, Michael M</b> <<a href="mailto:martin.michael.m@edumail.vic.gov.au">martin.michael.m@edumail.vic.gov.au</a>> wrote:</span><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">
Here, here Adrian,<br><br>I have been teaching IPM for 16 years and this year is the first time that I won't be teaching VCE. I am at one of our junior campuses and am teaching all the ICT classes 7-10 and since it has been a while that I have been involved with the junior classes (over 4 years since teaching at this level), I am keen to get and share resources. So sharing resources is not just for new and first year out teachers. Like you Adrian, I have been teaching for a very long time but I can still remember when I was first year out. (an elephant never forgets, or is it an IT teacher never forgets).
<br><br>So please listers, share your resources.<br><br>ps: I have posted a document for Yr 10 ICT course outline which is compliant to VELS which I developed with a colleage of mine. Go to the edulist website and you will find it on the 7-10 link.
<br><br>Happy ICTing in 2007<br><br>Regards<br><br><br>Michael Martin<br>Copperfield College<br><br>________________________________<br><br>From: <a href="mailto:yr7-10it-bounces@edulists.com.au">yr7-10it-bounces@edulists.com.au
</a> on behalf of Adrian Janson<br>Sent: Sat 2/3/2007 12:45 AM<br>To: 'Year 7 - 10 Information Technology Teachers' Mailing List'<br>Subject: RE: [Yr7-10it] IPM2007 assistance<br><br><br><br>Adding my voice to the chorus.... !!
<br><br>Enough has probably been said, however, there are a few important things to<br>consider.<br><br>Firstly, these lists exist for this very purpose - so please if you need<br>resources, put a request out there and those of us who have them are usually
<br>very happy to post them for all to make use of as they wish.<br><br>Secondly, I still remember what it is like as a first year out teacher - you<br>have very few resources to draw on and often you are the only IT teacher in
<br>your school. This is the sort of networking that VCAA (especially) really<br>wants us to be doing, to ensure that courses are delivered in the right way<br>and criteria are followed.<br><br>So please - don't hesitate to post a request for assistance! ... and on the
<br>flip side of that coin - don't be shy about posting your own material to the<br>lists. There are some of us that post a lot, but many of us who don't.<br>Don't feel that you will be judged - because you won't. Every contribution
<br>enriches the whole experience..... When I post documents, I write something<br>like 'here is (such and such).... feel free to modify it or let me know what<br>you think!'.... I really feel that if 1 person finds any of my material
<br>useful, then I have done a good deed - and those that can't use it, don't.<br><br>Cheers,<br>Adrian Janson<br>VITTA President<br>Director of ICT, Melbourne High School<br><br><br>-----Original Message-----<br>
From: <a href="mailto:yr7-10it-bounces@edulists.com.au">yr7-10it-bounces@edulists.com.au</a><br>[mailto:<a href="mailto:yr7-10it-bounces@edulists.com.au">yr7-10it-bounces@edulists.com.au</a>] On Behalf Of Geoff Moss<br>Sent: Friday, 2 February 2007 11:31 PM
<br>To: Year 7 - 10 Information Technology Teachers' Mailing List<br>Subject: Re: [Yr7-10it] IPM2007 assistance<br><br>Hear!! Hear!! Keith, Therese, Maggie.<br><br>Haven't we all at some time copied or borrowed ideas and materials from
<br>others? Then we have modified it and made it suit our students or purposes.<br><br>Didn't we borrow ideas of our mentors on teaching rounds and in our early<br>years of teaching.<br><br>Heaven bid, isn't a textbook the work and ideas of someone else who has been
<br><br>prepared to distribute their ideas for others to use and share.<br><br>John, I assume that you therefore don't use a textbook, refer to or use<br>resources on this mailing list and the VITTA website, or use or modify ideas
<br><br>presented and distributed at conferences, etc. Also I assume you do not use<br><br>such references as Mark Kelly's website, wikipedia and howstuffworks.<br><br>We all do it and it is not the right or privilege of "experienced" teachers
<br>to copy ideas and materials from others. We are learners and and learning,<br>sharing ideas, materials and resources for the common good of our students<br>and to encourage and develop the skills of fellow teachers.<br>
<br>We are so lucky that there are a few teachers (I wont mention names lest I<br>leave out someone) on the mailing list who are continually prepared to<br>contribute and share their ideas more than most of the rest of us, for which
<br><br>the majority are truly grateful.<br><br>Thanks to the mailing list and its many contributors and the authors of our<br>textbooks over the years I, for one, am better prepared and more able to<br>deliver the ITA, and former IPM, courses without having to go back and
<br>reinvent the wheel. I have been able to provide a wider range of<br>stimulating materials to my classes than I would have done on my own.<br><br>I am also one who has not contributed as much as many others, however, I am
<br>sure the many contributors don't think any less of me and others in this<br>category, ([Though we should contribute when we can) because they all share<br>for the common good of providing for the the eduction of all students, not
<br>just their own.<br><br>So Vinod, and any other first year IT teachers, welcome to the list and we<br>encourage you to keep seeking assistance from fellow colleagues and may you<br>have success with your class during the year.
<br><br>Geoff Moss<br>RMIT<br><br>----- Original Message -----<br>From: "Keith Richardson" <<a href="mailto:keithcr@fastmail.fm">keithcr@fastmail.fm</a>><br>To: "Year 7 - 10 Information Technology Teachers' Mailing List"
<br><<a href="mailto:yr7-10it@edulists.com.au">yr7-10it@edulists.com.au</a>><br>Sent: Friday, February 02, 2007 9:39 PM<br>Subject: RE: [Yr7-10it] IPM2007 assistance<br><br><br>> John - shame! What is wrong with people "using" the ideas of others? I
<br>> do it all of the time, and learn heaps from it.<br>> The big risk of negative comments like yours is it can "scare off" timid<br>> teachers who are not wanting to offend, but want to professionally
<br>> provide the best possible for their students.<br>> My self confidence over the years has grown from receiving the<br>> unconditional support of others, and I then feel freed (by this) to<br>> offer my help whenever it is sought.
<br>> Everyone - seek and you shall find. Remain silent and you will remain<br>> lost. Do not be intimidated by negative comments.<br>> Keith.<br>><br>><br>><br>><br>> On Fri, 2 Feb 2007 20:59:26 +1100, "Therese Keane"
<br>> <<a href="mailto:Therese.Keane@genazzano.vic.edu.au">Therese.Keane@genazzano.vic.edu.au</a>> said:<br>>> I have to disagree with your comments John.<br>>><br>>> Given only this week, it was reported in the media that large numbers of
<br>>> new teachers do not "hang around" in the teaching profession past 5<br>>> years. This in itself should ring alarm bells.<br>>><br>>> Firstly, I have no problems in helping first year teachers with using my
<br>>> materials. Over the years, I (like many other people, including Maggie!)<br>>> ran sessions on behalf of VITTA where I freely gave away my materials. I<br>>> did not mind that teachers used them in their own classes. All teachers
<br>>> no matter how many years of experience need help, support and<br>>> assistance. Like many other people in the IT community, I am not alone<br>>> in the sharing of resources.<br>>><br>>> After all, why have a list at all if people do not want to share ideas
<br>>> or resources? This is recognised by VITTA who have just produced a CD<br>>> full of resources. I strongly believe that anyone has the right to ask<br>>> for assistance and should not be made to feel intimidated by comments
<br>>> like yours.<br>>><br>>> With respect to Information Technology Applications it is often the case<br>>> that there is only 1 teacher in the school and so they need support from<br>>> the broader IT community, especially if they are a first timer. Please
<br>>> treat first timers with the same amount of support that you would expect<br>>> if you were in their position.<br>>><br>>> Therese<br>>><br>>> -----Original Message-----<br>>> From:
<a href="mailto:yr7-10it-bounces@edulists.com.au">yr7-10it-bounces@edulists.com.au</a><br>>> [mailto:<a href="mailto:yr7-10it-bounces@edulists.com.au">yr7-10it-bounces@edulists.com.au</a>] On Behalf Of<br>>> <a href="mailto:iaquinto@ozemail.com.au">
iaquinto@ozemail.com.au</a><br>>> Sent: Friday, 2 February 2007 7:57 PM<br>>> To: <a href="mailto:yr7-10it@edulists.com.au">yr7-10it@edulists.com.au</a><br>>> Subject: RE: [Yr7-10it] IPM2007 assistance<br>
>><br>>> Thanks for your comments, John. I'm afraid I must let you know that you<br>>> have made these comments on the wrong list. Yeps. Please subscribe to<br>>> the curmudgeon list and you will find sentiments similar to yours.
<br>>><br>>> Maggie<br>>><br>>> Quoting John Torey <<a href="mailto:jtorey@parade.vic.edu.au">jtorey@parade.vic.edu.au</a>>:<br>>><br>>> > Dear IPMers,<br>>> ><br>>> > I know this is late but I have over 100 emails still to sort through
<br>>> > from over the break, but seriously, this process of just asking for<br>>> > work to look at is just a polite attempt to gain work in order to<br>>> > minimise the amount of work to do.<br>
>> ><br>>> > If people are qualified to teach IT then they should be able to write<br>>> > it themselves and then use the appropriate IT list ( not this one for<br>>> > IPM but use the IPM list) to show it and let the experienced Iters
<br>>> > look at at it and respond if it looks good.<br>>> ><br>>> > First timers should stop trying to get the work for nothing.<br>>> ><br>>> > Lets get real and encourage first timers to do the work and not copy
<br>>> > work.<br>>> ><br>>> > Cheers,<br>>> ><br>>> > John Torey<br>>> > Mathematics Convenor (taught IT/IPM between 1992 - 2003) Parade<br>>> > College - Bundoora VIC
<br>>> > (03) 9468 3300<br>>> > <a href="mailto:jtorey@parade.vic.edu.au">jtorey@parade.vic.edu.au</a><br>>> ><br>>> ><br>>> > -----Original Message-----<br>>> > From:
<a href="mailto:yr7-10it-bounces@edulists.com.au">yr7-10it-bounces@edulists.com.au</a><br>>> > [mailto:<a href="mailto:yr7-10it-bounces@edulists.com.au">yr7-10it-bounces@edulists.com.au</a>] On Behalf Of<br>>> >
<a href="mailto:narayanv@yeahs.vic.edu.au">narayanv@yeahs.vic.edu.au</a><br>>> > Sent: Friday, 15 December 2006 8:35 AM<br>>> > To: <a href="mailto:yr7-10it@edulists.com.au">yr7-10it@edulists.com.au</a><br>
>> > Subject: [Yr7-10it] IPM2007 assistance<br>>> ><br>>> > Hi Keith<br>>> > I will be teaching IPM 3 & 4 in 2007 for the first time. If you have<br>>> > done any planning based on the text below, I would be pleased to have
<br>>> > a look at it to assist me teaching IPM next year.<br>>> > It would be of great help.<br>>> > I would be also be too happy to receive work set for outcomes 1 and 2.<br>>> > Your assistance will be greatly appreciated.
<br>>> > Thank you.<br>>> > Vinod Narayan<br>>> > Yea High School.<br>>> ><br>>> > "Information Technology Applications VCE Units 3 & 4 - EDITION: 2 -<br>>> >> ISBN: 0170130258
<br>>> >> AUTHORS: Colin Potts, Therese Keane, Janet Lancaster, James Lawson,<br>>> >> Margaret Lawson"<br>>> ><br>>> ><br>>> > "Keith Richardson" <<a href="mailto:keithcr@fastmail.fm">
keithcr@fastmail.fm</a>> on Wed, 22 Nov 2006 21:42:38<br>>> > +1100 wrote:<br>>> >> Does anyone have proofs of this book for next year?<br>>> >><br>>> >> "Information Technology Applications VCE Units 3 & 4 - EDITION: 2 -
<br>>> >> ISBN: 0170130258<br>>> >> AUTHORS: Colin Potts, Therese Keane, Janet Lancaster, James Lawson,<br>>> >> Margaret Lawson"<br>>> >><br>>> >> REASON - I want to do my detailed planning now, and will be happy to
<br>>> >> share it with others through this list.<br>>> >><br>>> >> Cheers, Keith<br>>> >> Keith Richardson<br>>> >> IPM List Moderator<br>>> >> Head of ICT, Leibler Yavneh College
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