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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Thanks Roslyn,<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>You paint a rather grim picture for ICT
across the state. From where I'm sitting I can only agree with you. The administration
at my school has been trying for years to get rid of Junior 7-8 ICT …..sorry,
integrate it into other KLAs. With all due respect to our colleagues, the ICT
teachers here don’t see the ICT skills in very many of our other teachers.
It’s a good theory, but practically I just don’t see it working
effectively, at least yet. My cynical view sees some people using ICT time as ‘ok
kids you have the assignment, here are the computers,’ and off the kids
go while their teachers mark work or check their email. The end of Junior ICT at
this school is inevitable. Other KLACs are already lining up for the extra periods.
<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>In defence of integrating ICT into other
disciplines, someone recently said to me something like, ‘Schools used to
teach touch typing but who does it now?’, as he smartly laughed. A rather
smug comment maybe, but I see this same mind set, or perception towards ICT. As
a counter argument, one of my Cisco Networking students brings his laptop to
class, and during my frequent PowerPoint lectures he sits there, and as he stares
at the screen, he madly types away. The other students cannot believe what they
see. They stare in amazement. These other students take notes (as you know) by looking
at the screen, writing/typing a few words, looking back at the screen, and so
on. A touch typist in the classroom is rare and really stands out. Sure these other
students can get by, but how much better are they if they have good typing
skills. I see the ICT skills that ICT teachers teach being lost as our classes
are integrated into other subjects. You’ve heard the argument before, but
here is again: we all are supposed to teach English/literacy skills, so why not
integrate English into all the other KLAs? Why not? The logic is the same. Why don’t
we do it? Because most of us are not trained, or don’t have the English skills
that an English-trained teacher has. How are ICT skills any different??<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>I think I’ll forget about all this
and have a nice, relaxing two weeks. I hope everyone out there can do the same.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Jim Bunn<br>
CCNA CCAI<br>
Technology Coordinator<br>
<st1:place w:st="on"><st1:PlaceName w:st="on">Hampton</st1:PlaceName> <st1:PlaceType
w:st="on">Park</st1:PlaceType> <st1:PlaceName w:st="on">Secondary</st1:PlaceName>
<st1:PlaceType w:st="on">College</st1:PlaceType></st1:place><br>
Victoria Australia<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:
Arial;color:navy'><a href="mailto:bunn.jim.c@edumail.vic.gov.au">bunn.jim.c@edumail.vic.gov.au</a>
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<p class=MsoNormal><b><font size=2 face=Tahoma><span lang=EN-US
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma;font-weight:bold'>From:</span></font></b><font
size=2 face=Tahoma><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'>
yr7-10it-bounces@edulists.com.au [mailto:yr7-10it-bounces@edulists.com.au] <b><span
style='font-weight:bold'>On Behalf Of </span></b>Meadows, Roslyn M<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> Thursday, 23 June 2005 7:26
PM<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> Year 7 - 10 Information
Technology Teachers' Mailing List<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> RE: [Yr7-10it] ICT in the
Essential Learning Standards</span></font><span lang=EN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=black face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black'>Thanks Paula,</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial'>Having poured over the documentation, publications,
powerpoint presentations, DVD and website since I first saw the VELS
booklet last year (and went "oh shock horror!"), I believe that I,
like most others on this list, fully understand the gist (and possible
implications) of VELS. </span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial'>But it is our collective fear that given the
opportunity, and an already crowded curriculum, many schools will take the
opportunity to hit the delete button on ICT as a separate subject and attempt
to integrate it into other subjects - thus freeing up a couple of periods per
week in Year 7 and 8, which will then be 'up for grabs' by other KLA's. Being a
small learning area (3 teachers at BSC) we will rarely have the
'numbers' in the vote that may or may not take place (in our school it will be
a decision made by the principal). And sometimes these school based decisions
are not made on educational merits alone, but are more influenced by peoples'
personal agendas, which members of staff are on the committee that makes
the decision, the lobbying by some and the personalities of the lobbiers. It's
all a matter of politics really! I have seen this happen numerous times in my
years of teaching.</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial'>In the previous emails to these lists which describe the
experiences of other schools who have already tried to integrate ICT, the
ICT teachers were overwhelmingly disappointed in the outcome. </span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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</span></font><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:
Arial'>The standards that each student must attain are in the VELS
documentation, but who will be following this up to make sure that these
standards are met? Will the VELS watch dogs be at every school to make sure
that ICT skills are being learned? What will happen in a couple of years time
once Maths or SOSE have gained these extra periods each week - will the ICT
component of their course eventually be watered down to the bare minimum, or
even less? </span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial'>And how can an English, SOSE, Maths or Science teacher with
little or no interest in ICT (and perhaps little or no ICT knowledge or skills)
replace an enthusiastic ICT teacher who has the knowledge, interest and the
experience teaching these skills? I am sorry but I see ICT skills as being much
more relevant to today's students than, for example - what food
ancient egyptians ate or what they wore (the subject of a Year 7 history
assignment that consumed many hours of cutting out, colouring in, and drawing
pictures that my daughter had to complete)</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial'>As an aside - I did a brief 'hands up' survey earlier
this week of two year 8 classes on "What is your favourite subject?"
Only 3 subjects got a guernsey - ICT, Sport and Art - with the overwhelming
majority choosing ICT. (They have studied databases, web design, flash and
image manipulation this semester - all of which has been put into the context
of real world and relevant situations - thanks Greg Bowden for your text and CD
ROM). Perhaps this is a reflection of my enthusiasm for the subject (one would
like to think so), perhaps it is because they are always so engaged that there
is never any misbehaviour (and one of these classes has a number of
'difficult' students, which makes life rather tedious for the other 'good'
kids), perhaps it is because they just love sitting at a computer. How will the
kids feel if you take ICT away and give them an extra period of say, Maths and
SOSE each week?</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial'>So I continue to ask "Has VELS got it wrong?" (By
even considering giving schools a chance to integrate ICT across the
curriculum) And I still strongly believe that ICT should be up there with the
big four (English, SOSE, Maths, Science). And I don't believe that it can be
successfully integrated across the curriculum. It should not be considered just
as a tool to be used in other areas of learning - as in</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial'>"...students will <b><span style='font-weight:bold'>apply
</span></b>ICT knowledge and skills to:<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:11.35pt;text-indent:-11.35pt'><font
size=2 face=Symbol><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Symbol'>·</span></font><font
size=1><span style='font-size:7.0pt'> </span></font><font
size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>develop
understandings (ICT for visualising thinking)</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:11.35pt;text-indent:-11.35pt'><font
size=2 face=Symbol><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Symbol'>·</span></font><font
size=1><span style='font-size:7.0pt'> </span></font><font
size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>demonstrate
understandings (ICT for creating)</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:11.35pt;text-indent:-11.35pt'><font
size=2 face=Symbol><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Symbol'>·</span></font><font
size=1><span style='font-size:7.0pt'> </span></font><font
size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>share
understandings (ICT for communicating)</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><u><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial'>in other areas of learning</span></font></u><font size=2
face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>."
(my underlining)</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial'>Millions of people around the world are employed in the
ICT and related industries, compared to the number of people employed
in, for example, history or art related industries. Yet history is
considered important enough to warrant 3 periods per week for one semester for
4 years, (about 240 periods) whereas ICT gets 2 periods per week for 1.5 years,
(about 100 periods) - and may lose this. ICT should be considered as a
learning area on its own; it should not just be considered a tool to be used in
other learning areas.</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial'>Sorry to bore you all - I feel quite strongly about this. </span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial'>Keep smiling everyone - holidays are just about upon us!</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial'>Ros Meadows</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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12.0pt'><a href="mailto:meadows.roslyn.m@edumail.vic.gov.au"><font size=2
face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>meadows.roslyn.m@edumail.vic.gov.au</span></font></a><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><b><font size=2 face=Tahoma><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma;font-weight:bold'>From:</span></font></b><font
size=2 face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'> yr7-10it-bounces@edulists.com.au
on behalf of Christophersen, Paula P<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> Thu 23/06/2005 4:31 PM<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> IPM List; Year 7 - 10
Information Technology Teachers' Mailing List<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> [Yr7-10it] ICT in the
Essential Learning Standards</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial'>Dear colleagues</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'> <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial'>Lately there has been some discussion about the
‘interdisciplinary’ nature of the ICT domain and its status in the
Essential Learning Standards. Being a member of the Interdisciplinary Learning
strand does not preclude ICT from being offered as a dedicated subject. Being
interdisciplinary means that in their learning, students will <b><span
style='font-weight:bold'>apply </span></b>ICT knowledge and skills to:</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:11.35pt;text-indent:-11.35pt'><font
size=2 face=Symbol><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Symbol'>·</span></font><font
size=1><span style='font-size:7.0pt'> </span></font><font
size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>develop
understandings (ICT for visualising thinking)</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:11.35pt;text-indent:-11.35pt'><font
size=2 face=Symbol><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Symbol'>·</span></font><font
size=1><span style='font-size:7.0pt'> </span></font><font
size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>demonstrate
understandings (ICT for creating)</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:11.35pt;text-indent:-11.35pt'><font
size=2 face=Symbol><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Symbol'>·</span></font><font
size=1><span style='font-size:7.0pt'> </span></font><font
size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>share
understandings (ICT for communicating)</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial'>in other areas of learning.</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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12.0pt'> <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial'>How they actually <b><span style='font-weight:bold'>acquire </span></b>these
knowledge and skills is up to the school. For example, the locus of learning
may be in a dedicated ICT subject where students would develop/acquire ICT
knowledge and skills using authentic data and information pertaining to other
domains. OR, other schools may construct a learning environment where the
acquisition and application of ICT knowledge and skills occurs in non-ICT
classes. The choice is yours. The Essential Learning Standards document does
not mandate how students will acquire the ICT knowledge and skills, but it does
state the standards that must be demonstrated at progressive levels of
learning. </span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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12.0pt'> <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial'>I’m very happy to respond to any queries you may have
regarding this matter.</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'> <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial'>Regards</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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