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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">Good afternoon,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">I’m copying and pasting screenshots of what I’ve got in my Resource Kit folder. Hopefully they go through the edulists system successfully. If someone can check that the information
is correct that would be great, as well as if someone can forward this onto the soft dev edulists.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">Lucas<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">Computing<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">Informatics<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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Software Development<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="EN-US">From:</span></b><span lang="EN-US"> informatics-bounces@edulists.com.au [mailto:informatics-bounces@edulists.com.au]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Vear, Gary D<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, 2 November 2016 4:02 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Year 12 VCE Informatics Teachers' Mailing List<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Informatics] informatics Digest, Vol 12, Issue 68<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif;color:black">I can confirm that our school ordered and received the DLTV Resource Kit as well as the update (which includes the Soft Dev and Informatics practice exams), but
it does not appear that we received a Unit 2 (Computing) exam either originally or as an update. Now would be a great time for that to be made available to those who purchased it (our Yr 11 exams start next week!).<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif;color:black">I'm also wondering what else we might have missed out on. Does anyone have a full list of what the DLTV Resource Kit is meant to include? Were there two versions
of the Resource Kit: perhaps one for Units 1 & 2 and another for Units 3 & 4? I tried to look on the DLTV website for details but it looks like it is currently down. Probably not the best time for this to happen.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt"><b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif;color:black">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif;color:black">
<a href="mailto:informatics-bounces@edulists.com.au">informatics-bounces@edulists.com.au</a> [informatics-bounces@edulists.com.au] on behalf of Garth, Lucas A [garth.lucas.a@edumail.vic.gov.au]<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, 2 November 2016 1:36 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Year 12 VCE Informatics Teachers' Mailing List<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Informatics] informatics Digest, Vol 12, Issue 68</span><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif;color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">Hi Cameron and other teachers,</span><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D"> </span><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">The DLTV resource kit folder that I’ve kept updated during the year has a Unit 2 (i.e. Computing) examination:</span><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D"> </span><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">You should have files called:</span><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">DLTV16 _ Computing _ Exam _ Unit 2 _ A.docx</span><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">&</span><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">DLTV16 _ Computing _ Exam _ Unit 2 _ A Solutions.docx</span><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D"> </span><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">If you don’t and can prove that you have purchased the DLTV resource kit, I’d be happy to provide you with a copy off list.</span><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">Lucas</span><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="EN-US" style="color:black">From:</span></b><span lang="EN-US" style="color:black">
<a href="mailto:informatics-bounces@edulists.com.au">informatics-bounces@edulists.com.au</a> [<a href="mailto:informatics-bounces@edulists.com.au">mailto:informatics-bounces@edulists.com.au</a>]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Cameron Ross<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, 1 November 2016 11:03 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> Year 12 VCE Informatics Teachers' Mailing List<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Informatics] informatics Digest, Vol 12, Issue 68</span><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoPlainText"><span style="color:black">Hi Lucas and others,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><span style="color:black"> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><span style="color:black">The only update I received on that day had the heading as below<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><span style="color:black"> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><span style="color:black"><img border="0" width="726" height="332" id="Picture_x0020_1" src="cid:image007.png@01D23526.00AA5D00"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><span style="color:black"> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><span style="color:black">However, I don’t have access to the Unit 2 Exams, any suggestions?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><span style="color:black"> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><span style="color:black">Kind Regards,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><span style="color:black"> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><span style="color:black">Cameron Ross<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><span style="color:black">House Coordinator / VCE Computing Teacher<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><span style="color:black">Year 10 Tutor<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><span style="color:black"> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><span style="color:black"> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><span style="color:black"> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><span style="color:black">-----Original Message-----<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><span style="color:black">From: <a href="mailto:informatics-bounces@edulists.com.au" target="_blank">
informatics-bounces@edulists.com.au</a> [<a href="mailto:informatics-bounces@edulists.com.au" target="_blank">mailto:informatics-bounces@edulists.com.au</a>] On Behalf Of Garth, Lucas A<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><span style="color:black">Sent: Monday, 31 October 2016 10:08 PM<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><span style="color:black">To: Year 12 VCE Informatics Teachers' Mailing List <<a href="mailto:informatics@edulists.com.au" target="_blank">informatics@edulists.com.au</a>><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><span style="color:black">Subject: Re: [Informatics] informatics Digest, Vol 12, Issue 68<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><span style="color:black"> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><span style="color:black">Hi Heath and others...<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><span style="color:black"> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><span style="color:black">There was an update to the resource kit. It was from Phil Brown and you might be able to find it in your e-mail archives by this header information:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><span style="color:black"> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoPlainText"><span style="color:black">From: Phil Brown [<a href="mailto:phil@dltv.vic.edu.au" target="_blank">mailto:phil@dltv.vic.edu.au</a>]<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><span style="color:black">Sent: Sunday, 11 September 2016 8:03 PM<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><span style="color:black">To: <a href="mailto:mel@dltv.vic.edu.au" target="_blank">
mel@dltv.vic.edu.au</a><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><span style="color:black">Subject: Update to the resource Kit<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoPlainText"><span style="color:black"> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><span style="color:black">In terms of exams that I currently have as part of the DLTV pack there's two Unit 1 exams, and one Unit 2 exam, plus a Unit3/4 sample exam.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><span style="color:black"> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><span style="color:black">All have been useful for preparing my students for their end of year exam (for the Year 11s I like to write my own especially for U3 U4 because our Python content would be less UI intensive as other teaching
units)<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><span style="color:black"> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><span style="color:black">If you wanted to use the DLTV unit 1 and 2 exam as an end of year exam, it's pretty decent to get students across the content. I think it's a little too much databases and not enough data visualisation in the
questions, but if you use it as a template and then add a few of your own questions it can work.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><span style="color:black"> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><span style="color:black">The Year 12 DLTV exam was good to hand out to students because let's face it, you run out of practice exams very quickly for your best students. The most important feature for me was another case study to get
stuck into. You can't do enough practices with this format before the actual exam. I'm near certain we will have low results for the last few case study questions because of the increased number of questions posed in this study design - MUCH more of a time
management test this time. (Thankfully the students have studied project management and can allocate their time effectively :) - and now also have something worthwhile to do in reading time - it takes a good 15 minutes to read a 40 page exam)<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><span style="color:black"> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><span style="color:black">Lucas<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><span style="color:black"> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><span style="color:black">-----Original Message-----<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><span style="color:black">From: <a href="mailto:informatics-bounces@edulists.com.au" target="_blank">
informatics-bounces@edulists.com.au</a> [<a href="mailto:informatics-bounces@edulists.com.au" target="_blank">mailto:informatics-bounces@edulists.com.au</a>] On Behalf Of Matheson, Heath A<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><span style="color:black">Sent: Monday, 31 October 2016 2:16 PM<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><span style="color:black">To: Year 12 VCE Informatics Teachers' Mailing List<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><span style="color:black">Subject: Re: [Informatics] informatics Digest, Vol 12, Issue 68<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><span style="color:black"> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><span style="color:black">On the same topic. I've been trying to get in touch with DLTV for the last four weeks. No answer and they use the 10 second message converted to text! No reply to e-mails. I was beginning to think that the organisation
had gone under but I did get the newsletter last week. I have not received any updates to the resource pack since purchase and am wondering if there is a VCE exam in there now? I'm not feeling very supported by the organisation. Perhaps I'm just unlucky.
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<p class="MsoPlainText"><span style="color:black">Heath<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><span style="color:black">Mt Beauty<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><span style="color:black"> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><span style="color:black">-----Original Message-----<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><span style="color:black">From: <a href="mailto:informatics-bounces@edulists.com.au" target="_blank">
informatics-bounces@edulists.com.au</a> [<a href="mailto:informatics-bounces@edulists.com.au" target="_blank">mailto:informatics-bounces@edulists.com.au</a>] On Behalf Of Robert Hind<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><span style="color:black">Sent: Sunday, 30 October 2016 3:58 PM<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><span style="color:black">To: 'Year 12 VCE Informatics Teachers' Mailing List'<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><span style="color:black">Subject: Re: [Informatics] informatics Digest, Vol 12, Issue 68<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><span style="color:black"> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><span style="color:black">Seem to be two issues here: copyright and service or lack thereof.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><span style="color:black"> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><span style="color:black">Re copyright: Of course you are correct that people should not be copying materials and giving them to others who have not "paid" for them.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><span style="color:black">BUT people do get frustrated when they cannot access materials they have paid for and cannot get a timely response from the providers, be that book publishers or DTLV. The copyright act used to contain a provision
allowing copying under these circumstances.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><span style="color:black">(I must get back to that science teacher at Morwell High who was foolish enough to give her science class, including my son, a test handwritten by me at Mirboo North.)<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><span style="color:black"> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><span style="color:black">Robert Hind<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><span style="color:black">Ex Traralgon and Ashwood<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><span style="color:black">Retired<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><span style="color:black"> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><span style="color:black"> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><span style="color:black">-----Original Message-----<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><span style="color:black">From: <a href="mailto:informatics-bounces@edulists.com.au" target="_blank">
informatics-bounces@edulists.com.au</a><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><span style="color:black">[<a href="mailto:informatics-bounces@edulists.com.au" target="_blank">mailto:informatics-bounces@edulists.com.au</a>] On Behalf Of Bass, Gary S<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><span style="color:black">Sent: Sunday, 30 October 2016 2:58 PM<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><span style="color:black">To: <a href="mailto:informatics@edulists.com.au" target="_blank">
informatics@edulists.com.au</a><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><span style="color:black">Subject: Re: [Informatics] informatics Digest, Vol 12, Issue 68<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><span style="color:black"> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><span style="color:black">Greetings<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><span style="color:black"> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><span style="color:black">i am not sure taking out on others is the appropriate response to lack of action since February.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><span style="color:black"> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><span style="color:black">On this list several times, mention has been made of access to answers to chapter questions, end of chapter quiz and SAT/SAC examples with suggested solutions.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><span style="color:black"> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><span style="color:black">This is the benefit of booklisting.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><span style="color:black">Your local Resources manager(Librarian?) will have these details.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><span style="color:black"> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><span style="color:black">Every year teachers need to renew their access codes and class codes.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><span style="color:black"> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><span style="color:black">This procedure is well established for several years (six i think) Asking for clearly copyrighted materials is a serious indiscretion, without getting into the legalities of the consequent action if anyone responds.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><span style="color:black"> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><span style="color:black">Book sellers at present are getting around booklisting, not responding to current teachers with requests for current courses, after their students have finished classes.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><span style="color:black"> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><span style="color:black">Google may be your friend, as was napster, bit-torrent and pirate bay, however we are over those now. ..<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><span style="color:black">Under bright light of day anyway.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><span style="color:black"> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><span style="color:black">Gary Bass<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><span style="color:black">DECV<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><span style="color:black"> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><span style="color:black">> On 30 Oct 2016, at 12:00 PM, <a href="mailto:informatics-request@edulists.com.au" target="_blank">
informatics-request@edulists.com.au</a> wrote:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><span style="color:black">> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><span style="color:black">> ----------------------------------------------------------------------<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><span style="color:black">> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><span style="color:black">> Message: 1<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><span style="color:black">> Date: Sat, 29 Oct 2016 07:08:07 +0000<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><span style="color:black">> From: "Mekail, Nagla N" <<a href="mailto:mekail.nagla.n@edumail.vic.gov.au" target="_blank">mekail.nagla.n@edumail.vic.gov.au</a>><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><span style="color:black">> Subject: Re: [Informatics] Nelson exam and answers<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><span style="color:black">> To: "Year 12 VCE Informatics Teachers' Mailing List"<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><span style="color:black">> <<a href="mailto:informatics@edulists.com.au" target="_blank">informatics@edulists.com.au</a>><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><span style="color:black">> Message-ID:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><span style="color:black">> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><span style="color:black">> <265F662487B07F44B28B4D72D3CB1E403B65C94A@EDUMBX09.education.vic.gov.a<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><span style="color:black">> u><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoPlainText"><span style="color:black">> you are right Vera, I had to ring and then emailed the consultant
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><span style="color:black">> person<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><span style="color:black">who wasn't available so I had to email two other consultants till one of them emailed me the code, I am totally agree with you, they made it hard. It is frustrated me as well because I wanted to give it to my
students before their last day.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><span style="color:black">> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoPlainText"><span style="color:black">> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><span style="color:black">> regards,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><span style="color:black">> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><span style="color:black">> Nagla<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><span style="color:black">> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><span style="color:black">> ________________________________<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><span style="color:black">> From: <a href="mailto:informatics-bounces@edulists.com.au" target="_blank">
informatics-bounces@edulists.com.au</a><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><span style="color:black">> [informatics-bounces@edulists.com.au] on behalf of Vera Cook
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><span style="color:black">> [vcook@mscw.vic.edu.au]<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><span style="color:black">> Sent: Saturday, 29 October 2016 7:48 AM<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><span style="color:black">> To: Year 12 VCE Informatics Teachers' Mailing List<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><span style="color:black">> Subject: Re: [Informatics] Nelson exam and answers<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><span style="color:black">> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><span style="color:black">> I agree Mark, and normally I would not say anything but most schools<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><span style="color:black">booklist the text book which in turn gives them access to the materials however many of their staff do not send access codes to the schools even when they are requested. The delay in the text book also stressed
many teachers due to the delay and I did not get one until nearly the end of term one and that was after our librarian had to ring and email to ask why we did not have them. I know we only have a small group of students studying Informatics but they need to
make it easier for us to obtain the resources which according to their own system that we are entitled to. With my new lap top trying to reset the password took ages as I kept getting blocked due to our firewall and it was incredibly frustrating. Then waiting
for resources that have been paid for to arrive which I am sure I am not the only person with 12s finished for the year. One of our resources we were invoiced twice and am still waiting for r!<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><span style="color:black">> esources. I have never felt more exhausted due to all this happening.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><span style="color:black">> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><span style="color:black">> It may be beneficial if Nelson created a teacher version of the text
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><span style="color:black">> book<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><span style="color:black">with access codes etc to relieve the pressure of us teachers who don?t have the time to keep chasing up ordered resources.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><span style="color:black">> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><span style="color:black">> Has anyone else had the same issues this year. I have been teaching
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><span style="color:black">> for 20<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><span style="color:black">years and have never spent as much time ringing, emailing and trying to chase up resources that have been paid for or that we are entitled to.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><span style="color:black">> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><span style="color:black">> It?s bad enough I was lucky enough to witness a person run over by a
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><span style="color:black">> car<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><span style="color:black">in Melbourne now I have had my first whinge for I don?t know how long.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><span style="color:black">> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><span style="color:black">> Please rebut me now?.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><span style="color:black">> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><span style="color:black">> Vera<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><span style="color:black">> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><span style="color:black">> From: <a href="mailto:informatics-bounces@edulists.com.au" target="_blank">
informatics-bounces@edulists.com.au</a><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><span style="color:black">> [<a href="mailto:informatics-bounces@edulists.com.au" target="_blank">mailto:informatics-bounces@edulists.com.au</a>] On Behalf Of Mark<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><span style="color:black">> Sent: Friday, 28 October 2016 3:42 PM<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><span style="color:black">> To: Year 12 VCE Informatics Teachers' Mailing List
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><span style="color:black">> <<a href="mailto:informatics@edulists.com.au" target="_blank">informatics@edulists.com.au</a>><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><span style="color:black">> Subject: Re: [Informatics] Nelson exam and answers<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><span style="color:black">> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><span style="color:black">> Hi everyone.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><span style="color:black">> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><span style="color:black">> I am the Edulist Moderator here. You may not believe that, but I even<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoPlainText"><span style="color:black">> While it's really nice to be helpful to the community, please remember<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><span style="color:black">that Nelson/Cengage material is their intellectual property and is protected by the Copyright Act 1968.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><span style="color:black">> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><span style="color:black">> It is not fair or kind to Kevork to use his Edulist to share
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<p class="MsoPlainText"><span style="color:black">> copyrighted<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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