<div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:trebuchet ms,sans-serif;font-size:small">Hi Geoff. </div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:trebuchet ms,sans-serif;font-size:small">Interesting. </div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:trebuchet ms,sans-serif;font-size:small"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:trebuchet ms,sans-serif;font-size:small">But at what <i>exact</i> point does the result change from being 'inaccurate' to being 'incorrect'? </div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:trebuchet ms,sans-serif;font-size:small"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:trebuchet ms,sans-serif;font-size:small">:-)</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:trebuchet ms,sans-serif;font-size:small"><br></div><div class="gmail_extra"><div class="gmail_quote">On 10 December 2015 at 13:15, Matheson, Geoff J <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:matheson.geoff.j@edumail.vic.gov.au" target="_blank">matheson.geoff.j@edumail.vic.gov.au</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
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<div>First up: Mark has to be right – having such obvious synonyms in the same KK point without any clarification is really silly.</div>
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<div>But I wondered if accurate might more often refer to input – an accurate reflection of the real world, whereas correct might refer to output. E.g. if my max temperature for the day was 32 degrees C, and minimum temperature was 21 degrees – but it turns
out my thermometer was in the sun – my results are inaccurate. But if I calculate that my temperature range was 111, then my results are incorrect. </div>
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<div>Clearly we're at the end of the year when we start getting invested in these discussions…</div>
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<span style="font-weight:bold">Date: </span>Thursday, 10 December 2015 at 1:05 PM<br>
<span style="font-weight:bold">To: </span>Year 11 Information Technology Teachers' Mailing List <<a href="mailto:yr11it@edulists.com.au" target="_blank">yr11it@edulists.com.au</a>><br>
<span style="font-weight:bold">Subject: </span>Re: [Yr11 Information Technology] yr11it Digest, Vol 129, Issue 3<br>
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OK. I broke out the big guns and pulled out the mighty <i>Shorter Oxford English Dictionary (volume 1)</i>.</div>
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It says (paraphrased):</div>
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<b>Accurate </b></div>
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<li>exact or correct</li><li>done with care</li></ul>
<div style="font-family:'trebuchet ms',sans-serif;font-size:small"><b>Correct</b></div>
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<li><font face="trebuchet ms,sans-serif">free from error</font></li><li><font face="trebuchet ms,sans-serif">accurate</font></li></ul>
<div><font face="trebuchet ms,sans-serif">Gee. <i>Thanks</i>, SOED!</font></div>
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<div><span style="font-family:'trebuchet ms',sans-serif">One interesting example I found online was this:</span><br>
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'Disciplining children is right, but physical punishment is not the correct way.'</div>
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<div><font face="trebuchet ms,sans-serif">'Accurate' cannot be substituted for "correct" in that example.</font></div>
<div><span style="font-family:'trebuchet ms',sans-serif">It seems that while "correct" is a superlative (something is either accurate or it's not), "accurate" is comparative, and allows a degree of
</span><span style="font-family:'trebuchet ms',sans-serif">exactness</span><span style="font-family:'trebuchet ms',sans-serif"> or </span><span style="font-family:'trebuchet ms',sans-serif">precision</span><span style="font-family:'trebuchet ms',sans-serif">.</span><br>
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<div><span style="font-family:'trebuchet ms',sans-serif">How that helps the key knowledge, I don't know. </span></div>
<div><span style="font-family:'trebuchet ms',sans-serif">Perhaps it means that "data should be not wrong [correct] and closely resemble the actual value of the thing </span><span style="font-family:'trebuchet ms',sans-serif">in the real world</span><span style="font-family:'trebuchet ms',sans-serif"> that </span><span style="font-family:'trebuchet ms',sans-serif">they
represent [accurate]".</span></div>
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<div><font face="trebuchet ms,sans-serif">Regards</font></div>
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<div class="gmail_quote">On 10 December 2015 at 12:37, Mark <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:mark@vceit.com" target="_blank">mark@vceit.com</a>></span> wrote:<br>
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Hi Katherine. The ambiguity and overlap of the terms is a nuisance. Would it not also be correct or accurate (!) to say that</div>
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When calculating student attendance it would be </div>
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<li><i>inaccurate</i> to only count days when students were in the classroom since excursions, incursions etc should also be included</li><li><i>incorrect</i> if someone has erroneously marked the student present, or absent"</li></ul>
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I really wish VCAA would be more careful avoiding these lexical conundrums that only serve to confuse rather than elucidate the key knowledge.</div>
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Cheers</div>
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<div class="gmail_quote">On 10 December 2015 at 12:19, Young, Katherine A <span dir="ltr">
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<div style="word-wrap:break-word">Hi Mark,
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<div>One possible interpretation:</div>
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<li>correctness means that the correct data items are collected/used to generate the required information</li><li>accuracy means that the values of the (correctly chosen) data items are …. well, accurate!</li></ul>
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When calculating student attendance it would be </div>
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<li>incorrect to only count days when students were in the classroom since excursions, incursions etc should also be included</li><li>inaccurate if someone has erroneously marked the student present, or absent</li></ul>
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<div>Your thoughts????</div>
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Date: Mon, 7 Dec 2015 13:02:21 +1100<br>
From: Mark <<a href="mailto:mark@vceit.com" target="_blank">mark@vceit.com</a>><br>
Subject: [Yr11 Information Technology] A Monday Challenge.<br>
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U1O3 KK5 - 'factors affecting the integrity of data, such as correctness,<br>
reasonableness and accuracy'<br>
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Your challenge for today is: Work out a way to explain the difference<br>
between "correctness" and "accuracy" to a year 11 student. The prize is 50<br>
brownie points.<br>
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Yes, I realise the terms are only given as examples in the study design,<br>
and are not made mandatory by the word 'including', but I'm interested if<br>
anyone can clearly tease out the difference between two terms usually<br>
considered synonymous by everyone except scientists.<br>
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The only thing I can suggest is that "accuracy" means "correctness" (free<br>
from error) but also has an whiff of 'precision' about it too...<br>
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e.g. storing Pi as "3.14" may be *correct*, but not as *accurate* as<br>
"3.14159"<br>
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Good luck.<br>
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Hi All,<br>
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A similar question was raised during my session at the DLTV in-service and in a nut shell (I can?t remember the excellent example that my audience provided):<br>
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I can cut a piece of wood to be 2003mm in length (accuracy), but if I should have cut a piece of metal it would not be correct.<br>
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U1O3 KK5 - 'factors affecting the integrity of data, such as correctness, reasonableness and accuracy'<br>
<br>
Your challenge for today is: Work out a way to explain the difference between "correctness" and "accuracy" to a year 11 student. The prize is 50 brownie points.<br>
<br>
Yes, I realise the terms are only given as examples in the study design, and are not made mandatory by the word 'including', but I'm interested if anyone can clearly tease out the difference between two terms usually considered synonymous by everyone except
scientists.<br>
<br>
The only thing I can suggest is that "accuracy" means "correctness" (free from error) but also has an whiff of 'precision' about it too...<br>
<br>
e.g. storing Pi as "3.14" may be correct, but not as accurate as "3.14159"<br>
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Good luck.<br>
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From: "Fitzpatrick, Michael" <<a href="mailto:michael.fitzpatrick@carey.com.au" target="_blank">michael.fitzpatrick@carey.com.au</a>><br>
Subject: Re: [Yr11 Information Technology] A Monday Challenge.<br>
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Like in maths; mark for correct answer but if not to the correct decimal places then lose a mark.<br>
Or lose all marks sometimes if correct but not accurate.<br>
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From: <a href="mailto:yr11it-bounces@edulists.com.au" target="_blank">yr11it-bounces@edulists.com.au</a> [mailto:<a href="mailto:yr11it-bounces@edulists.com.au" target="_blank">yr11it-bounces@edulists.com.au</a>] On Behalf Of Mark<br>
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U1O3 KK5 - 'factors affecting the integrity of data, such as correctness, reasonableness and accuracy'<br>
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Your challenge for today is: Work out a way to explain the difference between "correctness" and "accuracy" to a year 11 student. The prize is 50 brownie points.<br>
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Yes, I realise the terms are only given as examples in the study design, and are not made mandatory by the word 'including', but I'm interested if anyone can clearly tease out the difference between two terms usually considered synonymous by everyone except
scientists.<br>
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The only thing I can suggest is that "accuracy" means "correctness" (free from error) but also has an whiff of 'precision' about it too...<br>
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e.g. storing Pi as "3.14" may be correct, but not as accurate as "3.14159"<br>
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Good luck.<br>
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From: Paul Pascoe <<a href="mailto:passyworld@hotmail.com" target="_blank">passyworld@hotmail.com</a>><br>
Subject: [Yr11 Information Technology] Free Data Visualisation Online<br>
<span style="white-space:pre-wrap"></span>Apps ?<br>
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Hi everyone,<br>
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I am looking at Chapter 2 for VCE Computing, and need to know if anyone has some great online Infographic making software that is free and makes good products.<br>
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I know about Infogram <a href="https://infogr.am/" target="_blank">https://infogr.am/</a> and Easelly
<a href="http://www.easel.ly/" target="_blank">http://www.easel.ly/</a><br>
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BUT<br>
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are there other ones like this, that are good to use for Y11 VCE Computing Unit 1 Outcome 1 ?<br>
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I have also found some videos:<br>
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Video About Infographics<br>
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<a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VQbFX2QzbOI" target="_blank">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VQbFX2QzbOI</a><br>
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Animated Infographics are great like this one of the earth past and future<br>
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<a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2XkV6IpV2Y0" target="_blank">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2XkV6IpV2Y0</a><br>
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and this one from "The Infographics Show" YouTube Channel on Obesity:<br>
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<a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IkoC3HZwe7Q" target="_blank">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IkoC3HZwe7Q</a><br>
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The Infographics Show channel on YouTube also has good presentations on water, and fast foods, and lots of other interesting topics.<br>
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Enjoy,<br>
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Paul Pascoe<br>
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ICT Teacher<br>
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St Francis Xavier College Beaconsfield<br>
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<a href="http://easel.ly" target="_blank">easel.ly</a> | create and share visual ideas online<br>
Easel.ly is a simple web tool that empowers anyone to create and share powerful visuals (infographics, posters)... no design experience needed! We provide the canvas ...<br>
Read more...<<a href="http://www.easel.ly/" target="_blank">http://www.easel.ly/</a>><br>
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[<a href="http://jifo.co/i/frontpage/top_img3.jpg" target="_blank">http://jifo.co/i/frontpage/top_img3.jpg</a>]<<a href="https://infogr.am/" target="_blank">https://infogr.am/</a>><br>
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Create online charts & infographics | <a href="http://infogr.am" target="_blank">
infogr.am</a><br>
Create infographics and interactive online charts. It's free and super-easy!<br>
Read more...<<a href="https://infogr.am/" target="_blank">https://infogr.am/</a>><br>
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