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<div>That would have been a far more logical thing to have said the first time around; </div>
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<div>Appreciate the input for sure; I’m certainly thinking that I will be moving down either a Python or Java line and given the incredible amount of interactive resources in this area it should be a heap of fun teaching for the first time;</div>
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<span style="font-weight:bold">From: </span>"Groves, Brett G" <<a href="mailto:groves.brett.g@edumail.vic.gov.au">groves.brett.g@edumail.vic.gov.au</a>><br>
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<span style="font-weight:bold">Date: </span>Tue, 16 Dec 2014 06:37:00 +0000<br>
<span style="font-weight:bold">To: </span>Year 11 Information Technology Teachers' Mailing List <<a href="mailto:yr11it@edulists.com.au">yr11it@edulists.com.au</a>><br>
<span style="font-weight:bold">Subject: </span>Re: [Yr11 Information Technology] Year 10 App Development Subject 2015<br>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">Hi Jarrod,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">No your question was most certainly not an error! But using App inventor to teach programming in Unit 2 would be, although it does output in Java the developer sees none of this and the interface is entirely
drag and drop of preloaded logic snippets that are graphically displayed. Hence there is no actual coding and no direct manipulation of code. While it’s great for teaching computational logic, familiarity with actual coding and syntax is a different matter
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">Although the current study design states “Flexibility exists regarding the language studied as there is no approved programming list for this area of study” etc etc, the ramp up time for App Inventor is considerable
compared to just going to codeacademy or some such and getting started directly with Java. It’s an inefficient way to simply introduce general programming skills you’d need in Unit 2. So while it’s not precluded it’s certainly inadvisable IMHO anyhow. Hope
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<b>On Behalf Of </b>Robinson, Jarrod J<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, 16 December 2014 2:55 PM<br>
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<p class="MsoNormal">I was asking a question; how would that be an error <br>
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On 16 Dec 2014, at 2:45 pm, Groves, Brett G <<a href="mailto:groves.brett.g@edumail.vic.gov.au">groves.brett.g@edumail.vic.gov.au</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">Hi Jarrod,</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">Used it for a Year 9 elective called Computer Systems, been teaching VCE for quite a few years Jarrod I don’t make errors like that lol</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<b>On Behalf Of </b>Robinson, Jarrod J<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Thursday, 11 December 2014 2:57 PM<br>
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<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Yr11 Information Technology] Year 10 App Development Subject 2015</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;color:black">Are you saying that you used the MIT App Inventor for Unit 2? If not do you think it would suffice given that there is no required language and technically they are building Java based applications</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="color:black">From: </span></b><span style="color:black">"Groves, Brett G" <<a href="mailto:groves.brett.g@edumail.vic.gov.au">groves.brett.g@edumail.vic.gov.au</a>><br>
<b>Reply-To: </b>Year 11 Information Technology Teachers' Mailing List <<a href="mailto:yr11it@edulists.com.au">yr11it@edulists.com.au</a>><br>
<b>Date: </b>Wed, 10 Dec 2014 22:37:05 +0000<br>
<b>To: </b>Year 11 Information Technology Teachers' Mailing List <<a href="mailto:yr11it@edulists.com.au">yr11it@edulists.com.au</a>><br>
<b>Subject: </b>Re: [Yr11 Information Technology] Year 10 App Development Subject 2015</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">Hi Cameron,</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">Not familiar with the text you’re planning on using, surprised that a text book aimed at secondary school is directly relevant to app development?</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">Nonetheless we used App Inventor by MIT this year, which has a drag and drop interface and a phone emulator, takes a small amount of set up and deployment of an AIstarter script but it’s a pretty cool way to
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">I did it at Year 9 and found that I did some prep on computational logic using VBA to create interactive digital stories but this wasn’t really sufficient for the weaker students. I’ve compiled a
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;color:black">Hi Cameron, </span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;color:black">It's new from Apple and I'm going to be busy over the holidays re-writing, and creating new ideas for the Xcode course here. </span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="color:black">From: </span></b><span style="color:black">Cameron Ross <<a href="mailto:C.Ross@balcombegrammar.vic.edu.au">C.Ross@balcombegrammar.vic.edu.au</a>><br>
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<b>To: </b>"<a href="mailto:yr11it@edulists.com.au">yr11it@edulists.com.au</a>" <<a href="mailto:yr11it@edulists.com.au">yr11it@edulists.com.au</a>>, "<a href="mailto:yr7-10it@edulists.com.au">yr7-10it@edulists.com.au</a>" <<a href="mailto:yr7-10it@edulists.com.au">yr7-10it@edulists.com.au</a>>,
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 9pt; font-family: 'Century Gothic', sans-serif; color: black;">Sorry for the cross posts.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 9pt; font-family: 'Century Gothic', sans-serif; color: black;">I have just been advised that I will be teaching an App Development elective subject for Year 10 next year and was wondering if anyone had a subject
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 9pt; font-family: 'Century Gothic', sans-serif; color: black;">The textbook I will be using is Programming Apps for the Iphone by Graeme Summers.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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