Don't forget to check the DEECD dashboard. Might not be a bad idea to set up something similar at school that can collect the necessary metrics. Like others, we did our homework two years ago and found some odd router configurations and squid proxy behaviour was causing us grief. Easily fixed.<div>
<br></div><div><a href="http://broadband.doe.wan/">http://broadband.doe.wan/</a> (VicSmart schools only)<br><div><br></div><div>Regards Roland</div><div><br><div class="gmail_quote">On 19 July 2012 07:54, Mark KELLY <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:kel@mckinnonsc.vic.edu.au" target="_blank">kel@mckinnonsc.vic.edu.au</a>></span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">Personal experience. Don't have empirical evidence, but yesterday I thought of asking the techs to measure it so I can make a case to DEECD. Surely Netspace must have a minimum performance level in their contract...<br>
<br><div class="gmail_quote"><div><div class="h5">On 18 July 2012 19:48, Hutchison, Geoffrey G <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:hutchison.geoffrey.g@edumail.vic.gov.au" target="_blank">hutchison.geoffrey.g@edumail.vic.gov.au</a>></span> wrote:<br>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">Have you tested it, or is it what the techs are saying?
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"" lang="EN-US">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"" lang="EN-US"> <a href="mailto:yr11it-bounces@edulists.com.au" target="_blank">yr11it-bounces@edulists.com.au</a> [mailto:<a href="mailto:yr11it-bounces@edulists.com.au" target="_blank">yr11it-bounces@edulists.com.au</a>]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Mark KELLY<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, 18 July 2012 5:55 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Year 11 Information Technology Teachers' Mailing List<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Yr11 Information Technology] U2O1- suggestions for next task with slow internet?<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt">'cos the off peak bandwidth is still bad ...
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<p class="MsoNormal">On 18 July 2012 15:01, Hutchison, Geoffrey G <<a href="mailto:hutchison.geoffrey.g@edumail.vic.gov.au" target="_blank">hutchison.geoffrey.g@edumail.vic.gov.au</a>> wrote:<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d" lang="EN-US">Think a better analogy is your street is dual lane, with just you on it, but out on
the feeder tollway (!) there are a zillion cars between 9 and 3.30. Outside those hours, very few cars on the tollway or local street.</span><span lang="EN-US"><u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d" lang="EN-US">Which begs the question, Mark: why aren't your techies doing their downloads outside
of school hours?</span><span lang="EN-US"><u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"" lang="EN-US">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"" lang="EN-US">
<a href="mailto:yr11it-bounces@edulists.com.au" target="_blank">yr11it-bounces@edulists.com.au</a> [mailto:<a href="mailto:yr11it-bounces@edulists.com.au" target="_blank">yr11it-bounces@edulists.com.au</a>]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Mark KELLY<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, 18 July 2012 2:34 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Year 11 Information Technology Teachers' Mailing List<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Yr11 Information Technology] U2O1- suggestions for next task with slow internet?</span><span lang="EN-US"><u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt"><span lang="EN-US">Yes, the department gives us a 100Mbps pipeline, and our service provider gives us a trickle of data along it.<br>
It's like being given a new 8 lane freeway and a mule to use on it. <br>
We alleviate things by having an ADSL connection to a 'real' ISP for the techies to use for their BIG data transfers...<br>
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It's a shame that many of these good data sources can't be downloaded or even cached.
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Maybe try to find a data source which you can store locally?<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US">On 18 July 2012 12:45, Esther Andrews <<a href="mailto:ANDREWS.Esther@bssc.edu.au" target="_blank">ANDREWS.Esther@bssc.edu.au</a>> wrote:<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">Our school joined the Department’s internet portal (terminology?) at the start of this year. I am
finding it is too slow for students to do research. This Outcome 1 requires students to “select appropriate sources of data and identify relevant data”. Last year I gave them a list of websites that contained a range of datasets and asked them to select their
data. Our web access is so slow I don’t think I can do that this year.</span><span lang="EN-US"><u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">Has slow web access been an issue for any of you in government schools?</span><span lang="EN-US"><u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">If so, how are you addressing this? Are you providing the students with the datasets?</span><span lang="EN-US"><u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">(I really don’t want to do this, but the situation here is intolerable!!)</span><span lang="EN-US"><u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">Thanks,</span><span lang="EN-US"><u></u><u></u></span></p>
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