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The point I was trying to make Dinh, is that the Year 11 curriculum
gives us the flexibility to make the course more relevant to our
students. I would think that every teachers goal would be to make
the curriculum engaging or fun for their students. Perhaps I used
the word fun too much?<br>
<br>
The request for brainstorming was a reflection on the fact that the
example of Unit 1 Outcome 1 in the study design might not appeal to
students, it wasn't a criticism on what you are doing with your
students. What is engaging for your students might not be engaging
for my students.<br>
<br>
Regards<br>
<br>
Margaret<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family:
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73, 125);">Hi Margaret,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family:
"Calibri","sans-serif"; color: rgb(31,
73, 125);"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family:
"Calibri","sans-serif"; color: rgb(31,
73, 125);">Would you like to share some ideas how to make it
“fun” for students?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family:
"Calibri","sans-serif"; color: rgb(31,
73, 125);"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family:
"Calibri","sans-serif"; color: rgb(31,
73, 125);">Students in my class have fun by working on
tutorials and having discussions on topics of interests. <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family:
"Calibri","sans-serif"; color: rgb(31,
73, 125);">I would like students to take the SAC seriously
as if they are in year 12. They are also assessed similarly
to year 12 standards.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family:
"Calibri","sans-serif"; color: rgb(31,
73, 125);"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family:
"Calibri","sans-serif"; color: rgb(31,
73, 125);">Every subject in year 12 is stressful and
challenging for the students so if teachers give them a
taste of what’s to come (during year 11), they will likely
choose the right subjects based on their strengths and
interests. Perhaps not all teachers would agree with me on
this point but when I look into the eyes of my students,
that’s what I see. <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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"Calibri","sans-serif"; color: rgb(31,
73, 125);"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family:
"Calibri","sans-serif"; color: rgb(31,
73, 125);">Cheers,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family:
"Calibri","sans-serif"; color: rgb(31,
73, 125);">Dinh Tran<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family:
"Calibri","sans-serif"; color: rgb(31,
73, 125);">Loyola College<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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"Calibri","sans-serif"; color: rgb(31,
73, 125);"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family:
"Calibri","sans-serif"; color: rgb(31,
73, 125);">P.S. If anyone wishes to share resources with me
directly, you can contact me securely at <a
moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:trand@loyola.vic.edu.au">trand@loyola.vic.edu.au</a><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size: 10pt;
font-family:
"Tahoma","sans-serif"; color:
windowtext;" lang="EN-US">From:</span></b><span
style="font-size: 10pt; font-family:
"Tahoma","sans-serif"; color:
windowtext;" lang="EN-US">
<a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:yr11it-bounces@edulists.com.au">yr11it-bounces@edulists.com.au</a>
[<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="mailto:yr11it-bounces@edulists.com.au">mailto:yr11it-bounces@edulists.com.au</a>] <b>On Behalf Of
</b>Margaret Lawson<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Friday, 11 February 2011 9:26 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Year 11 Information Technology Teachers'
Mailing List<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Yr11 Information Technology]
Developing SAC's<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">I would think that at Year 11, you would
want to develop a SAC that would a) assess their understanding
of the key knowledge and skills and b) appeal to their
interests. After all, we want these kids to enroll in our Year
12 subjects come July.<br>
<br>
Over the years I have used students co-curricular interests to
direct me as to what type of case study might be appropriate
for their interest. And of course it is important to have FUN
with the Year 11 curriculum. At Year 12 you don't have as much
flexibility compared with Year 11.<br>
<br>
The example in the study design is for Enrollment trends at a
school. This might be interesting to some, but other case
studies might be more appealing to the kids. So you might need
to do a little thinking outside the box! Perhaps we could use
the list to brainstorm?<br>
<br>
:)<br>
<br>
Margaret<br>
<br>
Currently on leave from St. Michael's Grammar School<br>
Mailing list emails go to home address<br>
<br>
On 11/02/2011 9:01 PM, Dinh Tran wrote: <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family:
"Calibri","sans-serif";">Hi Mark,</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family:
"Calibri","sans-serif";"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family:
"Calibri","sans-serif";">I do not agree
with you or Natalie about the possibility of students having
any real advantages because firstly the examples in the
Study Design are INCOMPLETE and only a sample, not the full
SAC. It has great potentials to be developed into a real
SAC, using different data sets and even different scenarios
so I believe writing SAC’s based on the study design should
be a good thing because at least it’s on the right track.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family:
"Calibri","sans-serif";"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family:
"Calibri","sans-serif";">If a student
goes through the trouble of reading and comprehending the
study design and masters the skills that is required in the
SAC’s, then they deserve to do well. I have never heard of
any student capable of achieving that standard.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family:
"Calibri","sans-serif";"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family:
"Calibri","sans-serif";">Regards,</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family:
"Calibri","sans-serif";">Dinh Tran</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family:
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family:
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size: 10pt;
font-family: "Tahoma","sans-serif";"
lang="EN-US">From:</span></b><span style="font-size: 10pt;
font-family: "Tahoma","sans-serif";"
lang="EN-US"> <a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:yr11it-bounces@edulists.com.au">yr11it-bounces@edulists.com.au</a>
[<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:yr11it-bounces@edulists.com.au">mailto:yr11it-bounces@edulists.com.au</a>]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Mark KELLY<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Friday, 11 February 2011 8:01 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Year 11 Information Technology Teachers' Mailing
List<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Yr11 Information Technology] Developing
SAC's</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"> <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">No Natalie, please come back from under the
basalt. All contributions are valued here. <br>
<br>
You do have a good point when it comes to kids getting real
SACs and getting an unfair advantage, which is why the ITA
list is careful about teachers uploading SACs to the public.
You never know where they might end up.<br>
<br>
Keep on posting!<br>
<br>
Regards<br>
Mark <br>
<br>
<br>
On 11 February 2011 19:38, Natalie H <<a
moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:natinga71@yahoo.com">natinga71@yahoo.com</a>>
wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 10pt;
font-family:
"Verdana","sans-serif";">That's
a bloody good point!! *hides back under her rock*</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 10pt;
font-family:
"Verdana","sans-serif";">:-P<br>
</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 10pt;
font-family:
"Verdana","sans-serif";">Natalie
Heath</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 10pt;
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 10pt;
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:
10pt; font-family:
"Tahoma","sans-serif";">From:</span></b><span
style="font-size: 10pt; font-family:
"Tahoma","sans-serif";">
Mark KELLY <<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:kel@mckinnonsc.vic.edu.au"
target="_blank">kel@mckinnonsc.vic.edu.au</a>></span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<b>To:</b> Year 11 Information Technology
Teachers' Mailing List <<a
moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:yr11it@edulists.com.au"
target="_blank">yr11it@edulists.com.au</a>></span><o:p></o:p></p>
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10pt; font-family:
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Fri, February 11, 2011 6:52:40 PM</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:
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<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Yr11 Information
Technology] Developing SAC's</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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Hi Natalie. If a year 11 of mine went to the
trouble of reading the study design and
independently worked on a possible solution
before a SAC was even given, I reckon they'd <b>deserve</b>
bonus points, but such a rare beast probably
wouldn't be the type who needed bonus points!
They would already be A+ material.<br>
<br>
:-)<br>
<br>
Regards<br>
Mark<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">On 11 February 2011
17:19, Natalie H <<a
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href="mailto:natinga71@yahoo.com"
target="_blank">natinga71@yahoo.com</a>>
wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size: 10pt; font-family:
"Verdana","sans-serif";">I'd be reluctant to base an
assessment task on something that's
in a public document. I actively
encourage all senior students to
read the study design... I'm not
convinced year 11s would go to the
trouble, but you never know. I know
these examples are starting points,
but I wouldn't want some students
having even a perceived advantage...
I don't think it's worth the risk.<br>
</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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Dinh Tran <<a
moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:dinhtran@iinet.net.au"
target="_blank">dinhtran@iinet.net.au</a>><br>
<b>To:</b> Year 11 Information
Technology Teachers' Mailing
List <<a
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href="mailto:yr11it@edulists.com.au"
target="_blank">yr11it@edulists.com.au</a>><br>
<b>Sent:</b> Fri, February 11,
2011 2:58:46 PM<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Yr11
Information Technology]
Developing SAC's</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"> <o:p></o:p></p>
<p>Hi,<br>
<br>
Can anyone be kind enough to
share some sample SAC's
please? <br>
Nelson Cengage have not yet
set up the teacher's resources
login for me so i am a bit
stuck on ideas.<br>
<br>
Are we allowed to use the
detailed example of the
learning activities on page
55-56 of the Study Design and
create a SAC out of it?<br>
<br>
I would like to personally
thank you for your support as
i am a recent graduate
teacher.<br>
<br>
Kind Regards,<br>
Dinh Tran<o:p></o:p></p>
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