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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>Hi Victor,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'> There are a large number of resources that have come through
on the use of Python. You can find these at <a href="http://www.edulists.com.au">www.edulists.com.au</a>
under Software Development. <a
href="http://www.edulists.com.au/sofdev/python/python_resources.htm">http://www.edulists.com.au/sofdev/python/python_resources.htm</a>
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>Also Dr Steven Bird from Melbourne Uni has published a Python
book. Details are:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"'>Thanks
for this opportunity to plug my new book...<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"'>Note
that there's a couple of examples of this in the "machine<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"'>translation"
section of chapter 1 of Natural Language Processing with<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"'>Python:
<a href="http://oreilly.com/catalog/9780596516499/">http://oreilly.com/catalog/9780596516499/</a><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"'>The
supplied software that takes a sentence and repeatedly translates<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"'>it
back and forth between the source and target languages. The book<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"'>and
software are available for free from <a href="http://www.nltk.org/">http://www.nltk.org/</a><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"'>This
material is part of a new second year "breadth" subject at<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"'>Melbourne
University, called Language and Computation:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"'><a
href="https://app.portal.unimelb.edu.au/CSCApplication/view/2009/800-204">https://app.portal.unimelb.edu.au/CSCApplication/view/2009/800-204</a><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"'>-Steven
Bird<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"'><a
href="http://www.csse.unimelb.edu.au/~sb/">http://www.csse.unimelb.edu.au/~sb/</a><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'> Guy Flaherty has also posted quite a long list of Python
resources through this archived post :<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'><a
href="http://www.edulists.com.au/pipermail/sofdev/2010-August/002028.html">http://www.edulists.com.au/pipermail/sofdev/2010-August/002028.html</a><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>Perhaps you can see what other responses there are via the
Software Development communities as there are a few python users out there.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>Kind Regards<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>Kevork Krozian<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>Digital Learning Manager<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>Forest Hill College<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>www.fhc.vic.edu.au<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>tel: 0419 356 034<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:
"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> yr11it-bounces@edulists.com.au
[mailto:yr11it-bounces@edulists.com.au] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Roland Gesthuizen<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Monday, 15 November 2010 10:50 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> Year 11 Information Technology Teachers' Mailing List<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Yr11 Information Technology] Python: Text, IDE, and
version control<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'>This can help get you started,
I will see if I can send you more.<br>
<a href="http://www.diigo.com/user/rgesthuizen/python">http://www.diigo.com/user/rgesthuizen/python</a><br>
<br>
We had an amazing time in class this year, examining and modifying the python
code from ANUGA, a hydrodynamic package developed by Geoscience Australia for
3D tsunami modelling on coastal villages etc. Enjoy :-)<br>
<br>
Regards Roland<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal>On Sun, Nov 14, 2010 at 10:13 PM, Victor Rajewski <<a
href="mailto:victor.rajewski@jmss.vic.edu.au">victor.rajewski@jmss.vic.edu.au</a>>
wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal>Hi Folks,<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal>We're planning on using python extensively through our VCE
IT curriculum; I'm trying to get some pointers from people who have taught it
(or other languages) in high school before. In particular, positive or negative
feedback about any textbooks - we have a few (paid and free) in mind, but would
like to hear any experiences.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal>I want to use a decent IDE - does anyone have any
recommendations? At the moment PyCharm is looking nice. <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal>Has anyone tried using a version control system (e.g. cvs,
subversion, mercurial) with students of this age? I never even got taught that
at uni, but it strikes me as a very useful tool to have some early introduction
to - many students our year 10 class this year 'lost' lots of interesting work
by saving 'over the top' of previous edits, without any versioning. Or would
learning a system like this, at this stage, be too much overhead and overload?
Integration of a VCS into the IDE would be a necessity to make making revisions
easy.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal>Cheers,<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><br clear=all>
Victor Rajewski<br>
IT Manager<br>
John Monash Science School<br>
+61 3 9902 9828<o:p></o:p></p>
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