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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>Hi everyone,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>I am trying not to be reactive – and I do want to listen
to your concerns but feel I must make a few points.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>Firstly, we are not comparing apples with apples. The PD
that you are all discussing is 5 x 2 hour sessions + a site licence resource as
well. We are not talking about a single PD session. So the cost
really is $120 per session + a site licence resource that is valued at $324.50
on its own. <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>The presenter (in this case – Kevork), deserves to be paid
for his time and effort – of this I am sure you would all agree.
VITTA needs to pay for the venue as well as someone to organize the event
itself – registration, etc. At the end of the day – VITTA
does not make much money from PD – and in fact last financial year lost
money. Under these circumstances, perhaps VITTA should offer NO PD AT
ALL. We offer PD for what we consider to be a fair price – enough to
make the event viable. In actual fact, the monies set aside by schools
for PD are out of line with reality – and that is the issue.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>Adrian Janson<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>VITTA President<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>
yr11it-bounces@edulists.com.au [mailto:yr11it-bounces@edulists.com.au] <b>On
Behalf Of </b>BROWN. Jeananne<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Monday, 8 February 2010 10:15 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Year 11 Information Technology Teachers' Mailing List<br>
<b>Subject:</b> RE: [Yr11 Information Technology] Learn PHP and MySQL to make
useful websites and support your students<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";
color:black'>Hi everyone</span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif"'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>While
I appreciate that these things all cost to some degree - and by complaining
we're probably shooting the messenger - I can't help but think that the
truth lies somewhere in all the messages about the affordability of PD.</span><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif"'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>In
a year when many if not most schools are finding the financial going tough,
when there is basically little if any money for things other than 'vital', who
seriously can afford these costs?</span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif"'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>I
don't question the actual cost/value because I have no knowledge of
their complexity, but maybe the PD and the clientele are not matched
anymore. </span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif"'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>To
be truthful - it wouldn't matter how great the PD was - even if there was a
chance I would return as an all knowing, worldbeating ICT genius - we
don't have the money to spend.</span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:
"Verdana","sans-serif"'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>It
is 100% certainty that most schools around my area would be loathe to and
unable to spend $600 on 1 person for a PD day. As Leanne says - the discounted
price is way outside our league. </span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif"'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>We
are feeling guilty if we spend $55 for a Saturday morning PD where it doesn't
cost the school anything in terms of replacements etc. We wouldn't even ask to
attend a VITTA PD as the money is just not available.</span><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif"'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif"'> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>I'm
interested to hear from ppl who are able to attend and how this sort of $ fits
into the budget. Maybe there is a lesson to be learned from that angle.</span><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif"'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>And
- maybe those of us who have decided it's an absurd amount of money should be
taking our thoughts to VITTA directly. </span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif"'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif"'> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>Jeananne
Brown</span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif"'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>Lavalla
Catholic College</span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif"'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>Traralgon
VIC 3844</span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif"'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> yr11it-bounces@edulists.com.au
[yr11it-bounces@edulists.com.au] On Behalf Of Leanne Wright
[leannejwright@hotmail.com]<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Monday, 8 February 2010 8:59 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> yr11it@edulists.com.au<br>
<b>Subject:</b> RE: [Yr11 Information Technology] Learn PHP and MySQL to make
useful websites and support your students</span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif"'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif"'>Couldn't
agree more. It seems in recent years VITTA has priced many of its
activities beyond the reach of all but the wealthier schools. Not much point in
a membership discount when prices are so high. Leanne Wright - Epping SC.<br>
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif"'>From: sav@pvgc.vic.edu.au<br>
To: yr11it@edulists.com.au<br>
Subject: RE: [Yr11 Information Technology] Learn PHP and MySQL to make useful
websites and support your students<br>
Date: Mon, 8 Feb 2010 08:43:18 +1100<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>Where can I buy a copy of Kevork’s book? </span><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif"'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif"'> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>I think $600 is a little steep for this workshop, there’s
no way my college can allocate that much for PD. Is VITTA a business or a
professional association? I think the PD industry needs to be more closely
scrutinized.</span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif"'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif"'> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>Laurie</span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif"'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif"'> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>
yr11it-bounces@edulists.com.au [mailto:yr11it-bounces@edulists.com.au] <b>On
Behalf Of </b>Jo McLeay<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Friday, 5 February 2010 4:54 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> yr11it@edulists.com.au<br>
<b>Subject:</b> [Yr11 Information Technology] Learn PHP and MySQL to make
useful websites and support your students</span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif"'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif"'> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:black'>PHP and MySQ</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:
"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'><br>
<b><br>
Who is this for?</b></span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif"'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<ul type=disc>
<li class=MsoNormal style='color:black;mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:
auto;mso-list:l3 level1 lfo1'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:
"Arial","sans-serif"'>All teachers who want to update their programming
skills to make dynamic websites</span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif"'> <o:p></o:p></span></li>
<li class=MsoNormal style='color:black;mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:
auto;mso-list:l3 level1 lfo1'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:
"Arial","sans-serif"'>Teachers of years 8 to 12 VCE & VET teachers,
including at Year 11 for Database Programming</span><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif"'> <o:p></o:p></span></li>
<li class=MsoNormal style='color:black;mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:
auto;mso-list:l3 level1 lfo1'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:
"Arial","sans-serif"'>teachers who are interested in delivering PHP and
MySQL</span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif"'>
<o:p></o:p></span></li>
<li class=MsoNormal style='color:black;mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:
auto;mso-list:l3 level1 lfo1'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:
"Arial","sans-serif"'>teachers of VCE Software Development</span><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif"'> <o:p></o:p></span></li>
<li class=MsoNormal style='color:black;mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:
auto;mso-list:l3 level1 lfo1'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:
"Arial","sans-serif"'>The day is tailored to fit the beginner,
intermediate or advanced person</span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif"'><o:p></o:p></span></li>
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<p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:black'>The benefits of PHP and MySQL include:</span></b><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif"'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<li class=MsoNormal style='color:black;mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:
auto;mso-list:l1 level1 lfo2'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:
"Arial","sans-serif"'>PHP is one of the approved programming languages in
Software Development</span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif"'>
<o:p></o:p></span></li>
<li class=MsoNormal style='color:black;mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:
auto;mso-list:l1 level1 lfo2'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:
"Arial","sans-serif"'>PHP can be used to program mobile devices</span><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif"'> <o:p></o:p></span></li>
<li class=MsoNormal style='color:black;mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:
auto;mso-list:l1 level1 lfo2'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:
"Arial","sans-serif"'>PHP and MySQL are free and open source</span><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif"'><o:p></o:p></span></li>
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<p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:black'>What is included?</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif"'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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auto;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo3'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:
"Arial","sans-serif"'>A copy of Kevork’s new book "PHP and
MySQL for standard and mobile devices"</span><span style='font-size:
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<li class=MsoNormal style='color:black;mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:
auto;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo3'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:
"Arial","sans-serif"'>software installation</span><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif"'> <o:p></o:p></span></li>
<li class=MsoNormal style='color:black;mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:
auto;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo3'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:
"Arial","sans-serif"'>sample outcomes for teachers who are interested in
delivering PHP and MySQL</span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:
"Verdana","sans-serif"'> <o:p></o:p></span></li>
<li class=MsoNormal style='color:black;mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:
auto;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo3'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:
"Arial","sans-serif"'>notes and exercises ready for participants at any
proficiency level.</span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif"'>
<o:p></o:p></span></li>
<li class=MsoNormal style='color:black;mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:
auto;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo3'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:
"Arial","sans-serif"'>refreshments are supplied. </span><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif"'><o:p></o:p></span></li>
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<p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:black'>What should I bring?</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif"'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<li class=MsoNormal style='color:black;mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:
auto;mso-list:l2 level1 lfo4'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:
"Arial","sans-serif"'>Bring your laptop</span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif"'><o:p></o:p></span></li>
</ul>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>Additional dates are: <b>2nd
March, 9th March, 16th March and 23rd March</b>. Sessions go from <b>4.30 to
6.30 pm</b> on each day. <b><br>
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</b></span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif"'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><b>Registrations Open: </b><o:p></o:p></p>
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<td style='padding:.75pt .75pt .75pt .75pt'>
<p class=MsoNormal><span class=object>today</span> <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><b>Registrations Close: </b><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal> 25th Feb 2010 <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><b>Price: </b><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'> VITTA members $ 600
(Inc. GST) non-members $750.00 (Inc. GST)<o:p></o:p></p>
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For details and booking go to: <span class=object><a
href="http://www.vitta.org.au/" target="_blank">http://www.vitta.org.au</a></span>
and follow the training events link.<br>
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F: +61 3 9495 6834<br>
M: +61 (0) 402 087 017<br>
E: jo@vitta.org.au<br>
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