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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>Hi Jeanean<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>Because there is a bit of overlap between the Cert II and Cert
III packaging rules and the same units are listed in both qualifications,
students can gain a Cert II and Cert III over 2 years. If you select the units
accordingly, students can complete 18 units and gain both the Cert II and the
Cert III over the two year period. If DE Vic are doing 8 units at Unit 3 / 4
level then conceivably they could deliver 10 units at the Unit 1 and 2 level
and students can get both qualifications by the end of the second year.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Allan
Barnes, CEO<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt'><span lang=EN-US
style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Australian
Institute of Education and Training<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>P.O.
Box 171<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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West 3055<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt'><span lang=EN-US
style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Melbourne,
Victoria<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt'><span lang=EN-US
style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Ph:
(03) 9387 2051<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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(03) 9387 3470<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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0409 428 221<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span
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vet-mm-bounces@edulists.com.au [mailto:vet-mm-bounces@edulists.com.au] <b>On
Behalf Of </b>Jeanean Pritchard<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Thursday, 16 December 2010 10:29 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> VET Multimedia Teachers' Mailing List<br>
<b>Subject:</b> [vet-mm] Cert II or Cert III<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>In the last few
weeks we have had a little bit of trouble with a student who wanted to take IDM
and another subject that was blocked on at the same time. We investigated the
Distance Ed IDM course as a possible solution. I was amazed to find that they
offer Cert III in only one year (at a year twelve level - units 3/4).<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt'><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>I did ring and leave
a message for Distance Ed to phone me back, but they did not. We have since resolved
the situation for our student, but it left me wondering about the Distance Ed
course.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt'><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>On further
investigation of their Cert III on their web page, I saw that they only study
eight units rather than the eleven stipulated in the training package. It
seems that they must make up the missing units by ensuring that their students
study Cert II Creative Industries in year eleven. Perhaps they take overlapping
units. This detail wasn't available on the web site. I asked my VCE
co-ordinator if this would meet VCAA requirements but he said he wasn't sure
and it sounded tricky.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt'><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>We study Cert III
over two years (yr 11 and 12) at Highview. We also offer Creative Industries at
a year ten level. This coming year, the creative industries course was not a
popular selection and as such, it will not be offered during 2011.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt'><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>I wonder how do you
all run your courses? If Distance Ed can do a cert II and a cert III in only
two years, perhaps this might be possible for us? This is the question that our
VCE co-ordinator has now asked me. Having checked out the hours requirement, I
would be extremely reluctant to do it this way. I do not even know how Distance
Ed possibly manages to meet these requirements at all. I usually do not
recommend students take Distance Ed subjects because I generally find they have
a limited success by the very nature of having limited contact with their
Distance Ed teachers.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>I would be very
interested in your feedback please.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt'><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>Jeanean<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt'><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>Jeanean Pritchard<br>
Media, Music & Arts<br>
Highview Christian Community College<br>
Maryborough Victoria<br>
jpritchard@highview.vic.edu.au<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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