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<div dir="ltr"><font color="#000000" size="2" face="Tahoma"> Hi Folks,</font></div>
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<div dir="ltr"><font size="2" face="tahoma"> Page 10 of the "Securing jobs for your future - Skills for Victoria" dated 4/12/2009 covering "Minimum Performance Standards 2010" states on page 10 that
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<div dir="ltr"><font size="2" face="tahoma"> funding is available for the RTO for:</font></div>
<div dir="ltr"><font size="2" face="tahoma"> . young people aged 15-19 yrs ( subject to citizenship tests etc ) who are undertaking an AQF level qualification at any qualification level regardless of prior level of qualification held.</font></div>
<div dir="ltr"><font size="2" face="tahoma"> . young people 20-24 yrs who are undertaking an AQF level qualification higher than the highest qualification held; or</font></div>
<div dir="ltr"><font size="2" face="tahoma"> . retrenched workers aged 25 yrs an over who are undertaking an AQF qualification higher than the highest qualification held.</font></div>
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<div dir="ltr"><font size="2" face="tahoma"> So, the evidence is clear. 15 -19 as at January 1 of the year of training means students can undertake any qualification and get funding. This means they could turn up with a Cert IV and do a Cert II and get funding.
No exceptions.</font></div>
<div dir="ltr"><font size="2" face="tahoma"> It is only for those 20 -24 yrs old as at January 1 of the year of training that they will not be funded for lower quals than what they hold already. This means a person with an incomplete Cert III can still get
funding for a Cert III as it is not a qualification they hold yet no matter what proportion they have completed as long as they don't hold the qualification.</font></div>
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<div dir="ltr"><font size="2" face="tahoma">Kind Regards</font></div>
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<div><font size="2" face="Tahoma">Kevork Krozian<br>
<font face="tahoma">Digital Learning Manager</font><br>
<font face="tahoma">Forest Hill College</font></font></div>
<div><font size="2" face="tahoma"><a href="mailto:k.krozian@fhc.vic.edu.au">k.krozian@fhc.vic.edu.au</a><br>
<font face="tahoma">Tel: 0419 356 034</font></font></div>
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<font size="2" face="Tahoma"><b>From:</b> vet-mm-bounces@edulists.com.au [vet-mm-bounces@edulists.com.au] On Behalf Of Kevork Krozian [K.Krozian@fhc.vic.edu.au]<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Monday, 2 August 2010 8:14 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> VET Multimedia Teachers' Mailing List<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [vet-mm] query about fees<br>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-SIZE: 11pt">Hi Allan,</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-SIZE: 11pt"> I am guessing this is an “internal” decision to not bother with partial funding if a student has already had payment made - albeit partial - for a qualification
he/she commenced but did not complete at another RTO.</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-SIZE: 11pt">I have the paperwork at school and will check it and get back to you.</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-SIZE: 11pt">Somewhat related is that I did secure the Diploma of IT ( Networking) ICA50405 on our scope at Forest Hill College just last month. I am concerned however,
to not offer it to my Cisco type students as it may do precisely what many have reported – cut them out of a Cert III or IV if they wish to go back to this. The better option would be to step through a progression with Cert I ( Yr 9 ) , Cert II ( Yr 10)
, Cert III ( Yr 11 ) and either a Cert IV or Diploma at Yr 12 . If the student was willing to step up to the Diploma and forgo the Cert IV then they could make that decision and take on the higher qualification. This would require extensive holiday work but
is achievable.</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-SIZE: 11pt">I’ll check the documentation and let you know what I find.</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-SIZE: 11pt">Keep well</span></p>
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<b>On Behalf Of </b>Allan Barnes<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Monday, 2 August 2010 8:08 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> 'VET Multimedia Teachers' Mailing List'<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [vet-mm] query about fees</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-SIZE: 11pt">Hi Kevork</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-SIZE: 11pt">I was told by someone who works in TAFE that even if it is only partial completion of a Cert IV they won’t be funded, but this was third hand or not sure
if that is accurate or not. She said one of her students from this year went to an open day to look at completing a Cert III next year and was told by the TAFE that they would have to pay because they have started the certificate.</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-SIZE: 11pt" lang="EN-US">Kind regards</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-SIZE: 11pt" lang="EN-US">Allan Barnes, CEO</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-SIZE: 11pt" lang="EN-US">Australian Institute of Education and Training</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-SIZE: 11pt" lang="EN-US">P.O. Box 171</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-SIZE: 11pt" lang="EN-US">Ph: (03) 9387 2051</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Tahoma','sans-serif'; FONT-SIZE: 10pt" lang="EN-US">From:</span></b><span style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Tahoma','sans-serif'; FONT-SIZE: 10pt" lang="EN-US"> vet-mm-bounces@edulists.com.au [mailto:vet-mm-bounces@edulists.com.au]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Kevork Krozian<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Sunday, 1 August 2010 8:56 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> 'VET Multimedia Teachers' Mailing List'<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [vet-mm] query about fees</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-SIZE: 11pt">Hi Folks,</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-SIZE: 11pt"></span> </p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-SIZE: 11pt"> I believe it is also the case if you train your student in say Cert IV, then they are not funded below that category thereafter.</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-SIZE: 11pt">That is to say, they will not be funded for a Cert III in First Aid if they have a Cert IV in Multimedia. However , if they have a partial completion of
the Cert IV , then they can be funded. </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-SIZE: 11pt">For that reason, it makes good sense to train our students sequentially , for example:</span></p>
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<p style="TEXT-INDENT: -18pt" class="MsoListParagraph"><span style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-SIZE: 11pt"><span>1.<span style="FONT: 7pt 'Times New Roman'">
</span></span></span><span style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-SIZE: 11pt">Cert I in Year 9</span></p>
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</span></span></span><span style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-SIZE: 11pt">Cert II in Year 10</span></p>
<p style="TEXT-INDENT: -18pt" class="MsoListParagraph"><span style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-SIZE: 11pt"><span>3.<span style="FONT: 7pt 'Times New Roman'">
</span></span></span><span style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-SIZE: 11pt">Cert III in Year 11/12</span></p>
<p style="TEXT-INDENT: -18pt" class="MsoListParagraph"><span style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-SIZE: 11pt"><span>4.<span style="FONT: 7pt 'Times New Roman'">
</span></span></span><span style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-SIZE: 11pt">Cert IV in Yr 12 if the student and the school are willing</span></p>
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<p style="MARGIN-LEFT: 18pt" class="MsoNormal"><span style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-SIZE: 11pt">I am thinking IT , Multimedia here.</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-SIZE: 11pt">Kind Regards</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-SIZE: 11pt">Kevork Krozian</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-SIZE: 11pt">Edulists Creator Administrator</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-SIZE: 11pt">www.edulists.com.au</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-SIZE: 11pt">tel: 0419 356 034</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Tahoma','sans-serif'; FONT-SIZE: 10pt" lang="EN-US">From:</span></b><span style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Tahoma','sans-serif'; FONT-SIZE: 10pt" lang="EN-US"> vet-mm-bounces@edulists.com.au [mailto:vet-mm-bounces@edulists.com.au]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Stoney, Marian Sy<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Saturday, 31 July 2010 3:37 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> VET Multimedia Teachers' Mailing List<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [vet-mm] query about fees</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'; COLOR: black; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">thanks all for speedy and great info. I will inform my student,</span></p>
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<b>Sent:</b> Fri 30/07/2010 6:06 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> VET Multimedia Teachers' Mailing List<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [vet-mm] query about fees</span></p>
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<p><span style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt">I spoke to our Fees expert and their advice is "Tell this person to get a quote from the RTO they're planning to enrol with. Remember to indicate if the enrolment is for 2010 or 2011, as the eligibility rules for Skills Victoria
Contestable Funding change on 1 January."<br>
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Regards<br>
Rob<br>
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From: vet-mm-bounces@edulists.com.au [vet-mm-bounces@edulists.com.au] On Behalf Of Malcolm Beasley [admin@impactcreativity.com.au]<br>
Sent: Friday, 30 July 2010 4:01 PM<br>
To: VET Multimedia Teachers' Mailing List<br>
Subject: Re: [vet-mm] query about fees<br>
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Skills Victoria funding is very specific and based on age group<br>
15 - 19 any course, any amount of courses<br>
19 - 24 any course as long as it is a AQTF higher qual, ie Cert III must be Cert IV etc.<br>
over 24 any Diploma course as long as the individual has NO formal training.<br>
So for your student no extra training over the age of 24.<br>
The aim of this is to have as many people trained at AQTF levels as possible by the age of 24.<br>
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Malcolm Beasley<br>
CEO<br>
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On 30/07/2010, at 3:07 PM, Stoney, Marian Sy wrote:<br>
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Hi all,<br>
I have a student who approached me to ask if it were true that if she completed Cert III at school in IDM, then she enrolled in another Cert III in a different area, she would have to pay full fees for the second Cert III.<br>
I don't know anything about this, but wonder if anyone out there can advise me?<br>
Thanks,<br>
Marian<br>
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