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<font face="Calibri">I sometimes think we should lock the computers
into glass cabinets, and teach the students what we COULD do with them
if only we had some realistic access!!<br>
<br>
Trust is something that should be automatically given to students, it
should not have to be earned. It is not fair to penalise 848 kids that
always do the right thing because 2 or 3 try to do the wrong thing. Our
kids virtually have to hack into the system to see the contents of
their home directory. Otherwise they must open a program to see their
files.<br>
<br>
Cheers<br>
Ros<br>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color: rgb(31, 73, 125);">No we
don’t have right-click
allowed either<a moz-do-not-send="true" name="_MailEndCompose">, we
have so much security we can
barely move and I have had to fight for every inch of access that my
students
have. Gets very exhausting and frustrating!<o:p></o:p></a></span></p>
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lang="EN-US">From:</span></b><span
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lang="EN-US"> <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:vet-mm-bounces@edulists.com.au">vet-mm-bounces@edulists.com.au</a>
[<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="mailto:vet-mm-bounces@edulists.com.au">mailto:vet-mm-bounces@edulists.com.au</a>] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Raymond
Nashar<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, September 16, 2008 1:19 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> 'VET Multimedia Teachers' Mailing List'<br>
<b>Subject:</b> [vet-mm] limitations placed by techs<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: "Verdana","sans-serif"; color: black;">Does
anyone have right-click allowed?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<b><span
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span
style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: "Tahoma","sans-serif";"
lang="EN-US">From:</span></b><span
style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: "Tahoma","sans-serif";"
lang="EN-US"> <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:vet-mm-bounces@edulists.com.au">vet-mm-bounces@edulists.com.au</a>
[<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="mailto:vet-mm-bounces@edulists.com.au">mailto:vet-mm-bounces@edulists.com.au</a>] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Meadows,
Roslyn M<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, 18 June 2008 3:20 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> VET Multimedia Teachers' Mailing List<br>
<b>Subject:</b> RE: [vet-mm] RE: Dual Boot Macs</span><span
style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman","serif";"
lang="EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color: rgb(31, 73, 125);"
lang="EN-US">Yes it is so hard for
many techs to realize that the ONLY reason the computers are in the
school is
to support the curriculum (not to provide them with a job) A case of
the tail
wagging the dog! The computers are there to support the curriculum, the
techs
are there to support the computers – unfortunately it often seems to be
that
the computers are there to support the tech and the curriculum is left
out in
the cold!<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color: rgb(31, 73, 125);"
lang="EN-US"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color: rgb(31, 73, 125);"
lang="EN-US">At one stage our
computers were so locked down (limited to educache, no right click, no
desktop
icons eg to Home directory – in fact the kids have to get into their
home
directory via a series of about 10 clicks!) they were virtually
unusable, would
take forever to boot up, kids could not save fla files, vb files, zip
files,
exe files etc so curriculum (Flash, Visual Basic, GameMaker, zipping up
a web
folder etc) is out the door.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color: rgb(31, 73, 125);"
lang="EN-US">I actually said to
our tech “why don’t we just put all the computers into glass display
cases and
TALK to the kids about what they COULD do IF they had access to them”! <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color: rgb(31, 73, 125);"
lang="EN-US"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color: rgb(31, 73, 125);"
lang="EN-US">OK – I will get off
my soapbox now – it is obviously a common problem.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color: rgb(31, 73, 125);"
lang="EN-US"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color: rgb(31, 73, 125);"
lang="EN-US">Good luck!<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color: rgb(31, 73, 125);"
lang="EN-US">Ros<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color: rgb(31, 73, 125);"
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lang="EN-US"><o:p> </o:p></span></i></p>
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style="font-size: 7.5pt; font-family: "Verdana","sans-serif"; color: rgb(0, 32, 96);"
lang="EN-US"><o:p> </o:p></span></i></p>
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style="font-size: 7.5pt; font-family: "Verdana","sans-serif"; color: rgb(0, 32, 96);"
lang="EN-US"><o:p> </o:p></span></i></p>
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style="font-size: 7.5pt; font-family: "Verdana","sans-serif"; color: rgb(0, 32, 96);"
lang="EN-US"><o:p> </o:p></span></i></p>
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lang="EN-US"><o:p> </o:p></span></i></p>
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lang="EN-US">In some cases, all it requires is that you rationally
point out
that there is a problem. <o:p></o:p></span></i></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><i><span
style="font-size: 7.5pt; font-family: "Verdana","sans-serif"; color: rgb(0, 32, 96);"
lang="EN-US">In others, all you can do is turn the other cheek. <o:p></o:p></span></i></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><i><span
style="font-size: 7.5pt; font-family: "Verdana","sans-serif"; color: rgb(0, 32, 96);"
lang="EN-US">At the far end of the spectrum are those for whom the
only
appropriate response is to carve out their still-beating heart and
force them
to eat it. (Marc Carlson)<o:p></o:p></span></i></p>
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lang="EN-US"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span
style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: "Tahoma","sans-serif";"
lang="EN-US">From:</span></b><span
style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: "Tahoma","sans-serif";"
lang="EN-US"> <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:vet-mm-bounces@edulists.com.au">vet-mm-bounces@edulists.com.au</a>
[<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="mailto:vet-mm-bounces@edulists.com.au">mailto:vet-mm-bounces@edulists.com.au</a>] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Rob Swain<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, 18 June 2008 2:47 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> VET Multimedia Teachers' Mailing List<br>
<b>Subject:</b> RE: [vet-mm] RE: Dual Boot Macs<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><em><span
style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: "Arial","sans-serif"; color: black;">Quote:
"...</span></em><em><span
style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: "Arial","sans-serif"; color: navy;">interested
in educating and in
giving students the chance to learn"</span></em><span
style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman","serif";"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman","serif";"> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: "Arial","sans-serif"; color: navy;">I'm
happy to wear that badge loud and proud.</span><span
style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman","serif";"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: "Arial","sans-serif"; color: navy;">--
Rob</span><span
style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman","serif";"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman","serif";"> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman","serif";"> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom: 12pt;"><b><span
style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: "Tahoma","sans-serif";">From:</span></b><span
style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: "Tahoma","sans-serif";">
<a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:vet-mm-bounces@edulists.com.au">vet-mm-bounces@edulists.com.au</a> on behalf of
Andrew Shortell<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Wed 18-Jun-08 2:35 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> VET Multimedia Teachers' Mailing List<br>
<b>Subject:</b> RE: [vet-mm] RE: Dual Boot Macs</span><span
style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman","serif";"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: "Arial","sans-serif"; color: navy;">Rob</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: "Arial","sans-serif"; color: navy;">Sounds
like you are more interested in educating and in giving
students the chance to learn</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"> <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: "Arial","sans-serif"; color: navy;">I
have always liked to think that anyone who uses computers must
delight in innovation and problem solving and exploring new horizons</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: "Arial","sans-serif"; color: navy;">Computers
and their usage change so much so fast and so often that
it is a very exciting area in which to work imho</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"> <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: "Arial","sans-serif"; color: navy;">However
there are some who have moved into this area only to do a
job – not to be excited. Troglodytes exist. We must shine the fierce
light of
reason upon them (Whoops, quickly hides sword and soap box and white
charger –
double oops – still don’t have white charger for notebook I do not have
yet –
Yes I know it’s a pun)</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: "Arial","sans-serif"; color: navy;">Obviously
macs work well in windows networks and windows work in
mac networks. It merely comes down to whether the technicians are
learners or
blockers.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: "Arial","sans-serif"; color: navy;">I
have seen it in other schools and universities</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: "Arial","sans-serif"; color: navy;">Andrew
Shortll</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: "Tahoma","sans-serif";"
lang="EN-US">From:</span></b><span
style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: "Tahoma","sans-serif";"
lang="EN-US"> <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:vet-mm-bounces@edulists.com.au">vet-mm-bounces@edulists.com.au</a>
[<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="mailto:vet-mm-bounces@edulists.com.au">mailto:vet-mm-bounces@edulists.com.au</a>] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Rob Swain<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, 18 June 2008 12:54 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> VET Multimedia Teachers' Mailing List<br>
<b>Subject:</b> RE: [vet-mm] RE: Dual Boot Macs</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: "Arial","sans-serif"; color: black;">I
can sit silent no longer...</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: "Arial","sans-serif"; color: black;">Those
techs are providing PC-assistance, not true technical
assistance then - which is presumably their mantra.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: "Arial","sans-serif";">When
will those guys stop putting their heads in the sand and wake up to the
fact
that Macs and PCs are <strong><span
style="font-family: "Arial","sans-serif";">BOTH
</span></strong>real world solutions used by real industry to assist
in real
work for which we are preparing students. It 'erks' me when so
called IT
experts explain that they cant support teachnology from a $77 billion
company with the world's hottest consumer brand. If our design (and
other)
students are going to be prepared for this IT-oriented world, they need
to be
able to use both platforms interchangebly --- a lesson that many of
these techs
clearly have not learnt themselves.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
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</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: "Arial","sans-serif";">Part
of the problem is that techs hold a position of 'expert' within the
decision
making processes of schools and learning institutions - so when some
say it
simply "cant be done", they are believed. What they should be
saying is "they dont know <strong><span
style="font-family: "Arial","sans-serif";">how</span></strong>
it can be done" as clearly it can be (as one list member has already
reported).</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: "Arial","sans-serif";">There
will always be 'died in the wool' enthusiasts who clearly sit in one
camp or
the other, but you would hope that a techs responses were based more
on professional expertise than subjective leanings. They are making
decisions about infrastructure - and infrastructure should support
multiple
players, in multiple settings and with multiple tools. Imagine a road
network
that only 'supported' Holdens or just Japanese imports - you get the
idea.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: "Arial","sans-serif";">In
any case the two platforms are becoming closer (ala the Intel chip in
an iMac)
and it will be interesting to see where this convergence leads. That is
another
discussion for another time, but it does call into question the whole
'one camp
or the other' approach.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: "Arial","sans-serif";">The
modern worker operates and innovates in a ICT world where ideally
'everyone can play' regardless of individual equipment specs (including
platform) - this world is not coming, it already exists.
Students should
be prepared for it and not limited by the narrow prejudiced views of
so called experts.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: "Arial","sans-serif";">OK,
I'm getting worked up now and I really do acknowledge that there are
some
complex technical issues that technical staff need to handle here, but
my point
is that the convenient 'knee-jerk' decision is not always the correct
decision.
</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: "Arial","sans-serif";">Time
to get off the soapbox</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: "Arial","sans-serif";">--
Rob</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: "Tahoma","sans-serif";">From:</span></b><span
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<a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:vet-mm-bounces@edulists.com.au">vet-mm-bounces@edulists.com.au</a> on behalf of
ARNOTT Suz<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Wed 18-Jun-08 11:13 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> VET Multimedia Teachers' Mailing List<br>
<b>Subject:</b> RE: [vet-mm] RE: Dual Boot Macs</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Arial","sans-serif"; color: blue;">We
have been told by our techs not to choose a mac, as they can not
support it</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Arial","sans-serif"; color: blue;">Bit
sad </span><span
style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: Wingdings; color: blue;">L</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Arial","sans-serif"; color: blue;">We
are an all PC school</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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style="font-size: 14pt; font-family: "Arial","sans-serif"; color: blue;">ICT
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lang="EN-US"> <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:vet-mm-bounces@edulists.com.au">vet-mm-bounces@edulists.com.au</a>
[<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="mailto:vet-mm-bounces@edulists.com.au">mailto:vet-mm-bounces@edulists.com.au</a>]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>geoffadcock<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, 18 June 2008 11:09 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> VET Multimedia Teachers' Mailing List<br>
<b>Subject:</b> [vet-mm] RE: Dual Boot Macs</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"> <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: "Arial","sans-serif"; color: navy;"
lang="EN-US">Hi Jacquie</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: "Arial","sans-serif"; color: navy;"
lang="EN-US">Primarily we are a PC school.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: "Arial","sans-serif"; color: navy;"
lang="EN-US">We have a Lab of Macs running VM FusionWare to enable
Windows XP.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: "Arial","sans-serif"; color: navy;"
lang="EN-US">I would not recommend it at all, it really is a disaster
over a
network. Our tech guys are trying to find something that will better
serve the
school but have yet to find a suitable solution.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: "Arial","sans-serif"; color: navy;"
lang="EN-US">Geoff Adcock</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
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style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: "Tahoma","sans-serif";"
lang="EN-US">From:</span></b><span
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lang="EN-US">
<a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:vet-mm-bounces@edulists.com.au">vet-mm-bounces@edulists.com.au</a> [<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="mailto:vet-mm-bounces@edulists.com.au">mailto:vet-mm-bounces@edulists.com.au</a>] <b>On
Behalf Of </b>Tinkler, Jacquie J<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Monday, 16 June 2008 4:03 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> VET Multimedia Teachers' Mailing List<br>
<b>Subject:</b> [vet-mm] Dual Boot Macs</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left: 36pt;"> <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left: 36pt;">Hi List members, this
is not
strictly a MM question, but I am guessing a few of you may have Macs…<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left: 36pt;"> <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left: 36pt;">I have an ancient IBM
Thinkpad
(as some of you will I guess) and was wondering how those of you with
Macs went
with the Mac/Windows Dual boot and/or Emulator are going. I would love
a Mac,
but we are primarily a PC school, although I am working on getting Mac
in out
Art/design dept as the kids will end up using them in industry later.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left: 36pt;"> <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left: 36pt;">Any info would be
greatly
appreciated.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left: 36pt;"> <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left: 36pt;">Cheers,<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left: 36pt;"> <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left: 36pt;">Jacquie Tinkler<o:p></o:p></p>
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